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In "Winner's Manual", Tressel talks about his interview for the coaching job here. He explained that he couldn't give an ultimate template on how he would punish certain circumstances, due to not knowing the specific circumstances surrounding that player. Why? He would always act in what was in the best interest of the kid. I'll defer to Tressel completely on this one. Yes, Turner has been in quite a bit of trouble but he also is surrounded by trouble daily. If Tressel thinks that getting him in Columbus around a football family will help him get away from that trouble and get on a succesful route, then I'm all for it (for Turner's sake). This has nothing to do with talent now...it has to do with getting Jamel's life in order.
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k2onprimetime
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Knowing Tressel, i really dont think this kid ends up at OSU. He might not even graduate high school cuz he left Fork union. Its a shame when you have so much going for you and your so talented, that you have to go and hang around with people with guns, pot, and pills. He could have been at home studying to get his grades in order for OSU, or doing things to make him better on the football field but nope he has other things on his mind. This really made me mad because i think he could have been a great player, looked so much like Thad gibson coming off the edge. Maybe he will have luck at another college
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OhioState001;1692823; said:
Getting shot in the ankle is a very small probability outside a car too.
matcar;1693018; said:
You mean, "have not spoken to him"?
k2onprimetime;1693101; said:
Do we know that Turner wasn't taking a break to go to the pharmacy to get medicine for his sick mother after studying all day?
Sorry to use your posts as examples, but there have been a lot of posts similar to yours in the last few days and I think we need to think about what we're saying and the values the BP tries to maintain in respect of players and recruits.
We have a rumor thread in which we can discuss conspiracy theories, speculations, and other hunches about Jamel Turner being shot and the outcome of it. This thread is for talking about Jamel Turner as a football player who has committed to Ohio State.
Anyone who has grown up in a tough neighborhood knows that one can have friends who get into real trouble and it can be very hard to distance yourself from them when they ask you to go for a ride or whatever. Nobody on BP seems to be in a position to comment authoritatively on what happened yet.
Sure, developments with this recruit don't sound very good but let's leave this to the coaches and let's not trash a kid who we don't know in a situation about which we know very little.
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osubartender23
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RB07OSU;1693099; said:
The concern with me is that didnt Turner already have this opportunity when he chose to enroll at Fork Union? He had the opportunity to work on getting his life straight, and he drops out of Fork Union, resurfaces with a 32 year old ex con with drugs and guns in a car in Youngstown?!?! If Tressel thinks that this kid is worth taking a shot on then I am all for it, but if he does you would think that Turner would be on a VERY short leash. Whether this kid ever plays for OSU or not isnt the most important thing right now though. For Turner's sake I hope this most recent run in is a wake up call that he might be heading down the wrong path.
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Buckskin86
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Recruit's Buckeye future uncertain
Suspected drugs, guns in vehicle of shooting victim
Tuesday, April 20, 2010
By Ken Gordon
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
There was no word from Ohio State yesterday if being shot while riding in a car that contained guns and suspected drugs will affect the football future of Jamel Turner, who signed with the Buckeyes in February as part of the 2010 recruiting class.
"(I) have not spoken to him," coach Jim Tressel said in a text message.
The coaching staff was still gathering information about the incident, OSU athletic department spokeswoman Shelly Poe said.
According to the Youngstown police report, Turner, 18, was a passenger in the rear of a Chevrolet Suburban on I-680 around 11 p.m. Friday when a dark car, possibly with tinted windows, pulled up next to the Suburban and shots were fired.
Turner was hit in the lower left ankle and right hip. The driver and car owner, 32-year-old Ramses Terry, was hit in the left hand. Another passenger, Turner's twin brother Jamal, was not injured.
The men immediately drove to St. Elizabeth's Hospital and were treated. Turner's injuries are not thought to be serious.
Police interviewed all three at the hospital, and none could give a possible motive for the shooting. There are no known suspects.
Jamel Turner has not returned phone messages.
Recruit's Buckeye future uncertain | BuckeyeXtra
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Joe6809
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Becoming a Man
Like a previous poster said, let's remember that we're sitting here behind our computer screens passing judgement on a situation we have very few details of. Regardless of what really happened, the facts remain that we're talking about a kid who has grown up around troubling situations, and is apparently still in them.
I for one would really like to see him get things straightened out here, because he has a serious opportunity lying just around the corner. Not the fact that he could be taking the field for Ohio State, but that he could have a great guiding figure in his life in Coach Tressel. Every once in a while, you find a coach who teaches you more than just the game you play, but teaches you how to be a man, and I think that's why Tressel gets so much love from the fans. I really hope Jamel can keep things in order long enough to get to school, and hopefully from there Jim can take him under his wing and help him get things turned around for the better.
Like a previous poster said, let's remember that we're sitting here behind our computer screens passing judgement on a situation we have very few details of. Regardless of what really happened, the facts remain that we're talking about a kid who has grown up around troubling situations, and is apparently still in them.
I for one would really like to see him get things straightened out here, because he has a serious opportunity lying just around the corner. Not the fact that he could be taking the field for Ohio State, but that he could have a great guiding figure in his life in Coach Tressel. Every once in a while, you find a coach who teaches you more than just the game you play, but teaches you how to be a man, and I think that's why Tressel gets so much love from the fans. I really hope Jamel can keep things in order long enough to get to school, and hopefully from there Jim can take him under his wing and help him get things turned around for the better.
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osubartender23;1693113; said:
I think he will certainly be on a short leash. Tressel is the kind of figure, as joe mentioned, that can help young people like Turner. Not saying he will, just saying that the best opportunity to me seems to be with Tressel. With Clifford, Tressel brought in a player with known issues. When Clifford messed up enough, Tressel thought it was best to get him away from Ohio and he has seemingly done better overall as a result. But obviously this incident illustrates that whatever the course of action is from Tressel, it will be in the best interest of getting Jamel on the right path.
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y0yoyoin;1692867; said:
Why did you bold the portion above?
People make mistakes and the owner of a car made another. However, there's no reason to pass judgment on Jamel as a result of his friend's actions.
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The convicted felon was also riding around in a car with drugs and guns, and partook in something that ended up getting him shot.
Some people make mistakes and learn from them and move on. Some people make mistakes, get caught, thrown in jail, released, and then ride around in a car with drugs and guns and partake in something that end up getting them shot.
Jamel is hanging around with the second kind. That's a poor decision on his part. One of many.
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Diego-Bucks
Lost in Canada
We have no idea (and may never know) the reasons for Jamel being in that car and if it was poor decision making to be in that predicament. We also don't yet know why shots were fired. It doesn't seem that shots were exchanged between the cars, or at least it hasn't been reported. So is Jamel just a victim of circumstance, maybe the driver was being targeted regardless of the passengers in the car. Maybe it was random?
I have no idea, and I don't think you do either. Does Jamel's past indicate troubles, partially yes. But do we have any idea on this current situation? No not really.
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y0yoyoin
That is a serious injury for Willis McGahee
7 Heismans;1693895; said:
your entitled to your opinion and im entitled to mine...and i bolded the portion above because something like that should not be overlooked...the fact jamal got shot is just as much his fault as it is the drivers...if the roles are reversed and jamal is in a car where his friend shoots at a person in another car and they are killed...well then guess where jamal is going
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Both, but mostly Jamel.
According to people that would know, Tressel and Jamel had a talk several months back that can easily be summed up as "keep your ass out of trouble until you get on campus and you have a scholarship offer to play at Ohio State." Since then, he's gotten kicked out of Fork Union and been shot up in a car full of drugs, guns, and a felon. That's not even including all the bad decisions that happened in order for that original meeting to even take place.
Sorry. I'm not buying the victim of bad circumstance angle. People make choices. Jamel makes bad ones....repeatedly. Go be somebody else's problem.
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Diego-Bucks
Lost in Canada
Yeah, that makes sense. I'm just, in general, a skeptic on charges, poor-decisions and public opinion until as much facts are brought to light as possible. I don't think Tressel would be in the wrong to revoke the scholly, however I also think that Jamel can do a lot of growing up at Ohio State and maybe just needs to get out of Youngstown for that maturity to happen. Combine that with the confusion inherent in this shooting incident, and for me, I am very slow to come to any sort of verdict on what to think of this.
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7 Heismans
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BuckeyeNation27;1693897; said:
And what is that "something"?
y0yoyoin;1693909; said:
Should not be overlooked...if you're trying to cast someone in a bad light via guilt by association.
Perhaps the driver and Jamel are true friends. Would a true friend abandon a friend in need or stand by him? If that's the case, then I'd commend Jamel for standing by his friend no matter what.
If one of your true friends made a mistake and was convicted for a crime...any crime...would you stand by your friend or give up on him/her?
Perhaps the driver claimed the items in order to protect his true friend.
I don't know the situation and won't chastise Jamel as a result.
y0yoyoin;1693909; said:
Jamal didn't get shot. Better check those facts again...
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