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Game Thread Game Two: Texas 25, Ohio State 22 (final)

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Start Troy Smith he is a better QB than Justin Zwick, period. The team seems to want him as the leader and that's good enough for me.

I think having experience and talent in a backup QB is huge and if we are going to make a charge at winning the Big Ten this year having Zwick/TB is major plus.
 
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After seeing how Zwick has progressed from Iowa to Oklahoma State to Miami, I've never felt so comfortable with Zwick at the helm (which says a lot, because I'm probably the biggest critic of Zwick on the board). He played well. His running ability surprised the hell outta me. His percentage completed surprised me even more to the point where I had to rub my eyes and do a double-take (where did THAT come from??). He led his team efficiently and put this game out of reach by early 3rd quarter- and as a Buckeye fan, I could not ask for anything more (because my heart is weak from all of the 1-to-7-point wins the last few years). If he were a member on this board, he'd get greenies all around.

There is something that this kid is STILL missing though, and I'm sure it was in the gameplan, but maybe not to the extent that it ended up being- the short passes. Crucify me if you may, but with Troy Smith at the helm, he not only brings a fast running threat, but he brings the threat of a bomb that the DB's will have to keep in their heads the entire game. Zwick proved to me last year that he could not complete the deep ball ACCURATELY (underthrow/overthrown EVERY time- not kidding), and there were no bombs from him today. What happend 2 throws after Boeckman steps in to relieve JZ? A bomb to Teddy Ginn for a TD, compliments of Boeckman.

Zwick completes the close throws because he's VERY good at completing them, plus he's still not at the point where he can check to a receiver downfield (which he SHOULD be, 4 years into the system). As an example (3rd quarter), Justin was pressured outside the pocket and threw to a close receiver for a 3 yard gain. A replay showed a WIDE OPEN Santonio Holmes calling for the ball 25+ yards downfield inside the 5... the nearest opponent was 10 YARDS from him. When you're scrambling like that, you should also be looking downfield, but obviously, he couldn't get past that dump-off pass.

My opinion is not meant to disrupt the harmony on the board about how JZ played today, because he had a HELL of a game. The kid is a leader and a pretty damn good one at that (it's his best quality). Did you see him smiling there in the 3rd quarter during the game inbetween snaps?? He was having a blast in there.

Zwick will start against Texas. He earned that right tonight. He's shown that he can lead this team, and JT, along with the rest of Ohio (Oxford included), believes in him. Troy will see a lot of meaningful time though, and I feel MUCH more comfortable with TS at the helm of this ship. In the end though, the best player will play, and in my mind, the best player was forced to sit out this game today. Prove me wrong, Justin. Be that sniper that I've been hearing about since you were a junior in high school. Be that leader that you were against Marshall, Okie State, and Miami. Be that best player.

Hell, if even I can believe in you, everyone else on this board surely can.
 
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BuckTwenty said:
After seeing how Zwick has progressed from Iowa to Oklahoma State to Miami, I've never felt so comfortable with Zwick at the helm (which says a lot, because I'm probably the biggest critic of Zwick on the board). He played well. His running ability surprised the hell outta me. His percentage completed surprised me even more to the point where I had to rub my eyes and do a double-take (where did THAT come from??). He led his team efficiently and put this game out of reach by early 3rd quarter- and as a Buckeye fan, I could not ask for anything more (because my heart is weak from all of the 1-to-7-point wins the last few years). If he were a member on this board, he'd get greenies all around.

There is something that this kid is STILL missing though, and I'm sure it was in the gameplan, but maybe not to the extent that it ended up being- the short passes. Crucify me if you may, but with Troy Smith at the helm, he not only brings a fast running threat, but he brings the threat of a bomb that the DB's will have to keep in their heads the entire game. Zwick proved to me last year that he could not complete the deep ball ACCURATELY (underthrow/overthrown EVERY time- not kidding), and there were no bombs from him today. What happend 2 throws after Boeckman steps in to relieve JZ? A bomb to Teddy Ginn for a TD, compliments of Boeckman.

Zwick completes the close throws because he's VERY good at completing them, plus he's still not at the point where he can check to a receiver downfield (which he SHOULD be, 4 years into the system). As an example (3rd quarter), Justin was pressured outside the pocket and threw to a close receiver for a 3 yard gain. A replay showed a WIDE OPEN Santonio Holmes calling for the ball 25+ yards downfield inside the 5... the nearest opponent was 10 YARDS from him. When you're scrambling like that, you should also be looking downfield, but obviously, he couldn't get past that dump-off pass.

My opinion is not meant to disrupt the harmony on the board about how JZ played today, because he had a HELL of a game. The kid is a leader and a pretty damn good one at that (it's his best quality). Did you see him smiling there in the 3rd quarter during the game inbetween snaps?? He was having a blast in there.

Zwick will start against Texas. He earned that right tonight. He's shown that he can lead this team, and JT, along with the rest of Ohio (Oxford included), believes in him. Troy will see a lot of meaningful time though, and I feel MUCH more comfortable with TS at the helm of this ship. In the end though, the best player will play, and in my mind, the best player was forced to sit out this game today. Prove me wrong, Justin. Be that sniper that I've been hearing about since you were a junior in high school. Be that leader that you were against Marshall, Okie State, and Miami. Be that best player.

Hell, if even I can believe in you, everyone else on this board surely can.

very well put
 
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That's MY BOY Jay! We'll be "hanging" friday night!

Thump said:
I know one thing, Jay Crawford is a blast.

When we went down to the Sugar Bowl in 98 he was the sportscaster at the CBS affiliate in Columbus and he was so loaded he couldn't see straight. I asked him how he got all of his beads and he said that "It's from showing my cock to some bitches."

I about died I was laughing so hard.

We have BIG plans!

HAYN
 
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i'd like to kick Skip down a flight of stairs...

still, i kinda like watching First and ten... i get to loathe Skip, and laugh at Woody Paige... he's kinda like Corso-- you can't take him very seriously, but every once in a while he just comes up with some very deep insight that is so totally out of character for him that it just floors you... well, that and he calls Skip an idiot a lot... :p
 
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Jesus, is there a respectable Texas discussion board out there?

Every one I have read talked about how either a) we barely beat a horrible team or b) we had things given to us by a god-awful team and we played poorly.

What the hell?

I was hoping to read some interesting Texas fans' thoughts of our team. I guess I'll just have to rely on the Texas fans that are here. . .
 
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kinch said:
Jesus, is there a respectable Texas discussion board out there?

Every one I have read talked about how either a) we barely beat a horrible team or b) we had things given to us by a god-awful team and we played poorly.

What the hell?

I was hoping to read some interesting Texas fans' thoughts of our team. I guess I'll just have to rely on the Texas fans that are here. . .

My guess is that most Texas fans didn't have the opportunity to see our game unless they ponied up the $, so they were content to watch Oklahoma choke away any hope of being considered a favorite in the Big 12.

Hey, Texas fans, if you didn't see the Bucks play Miami, I'll summarize. The Bucks look OK. They might get lucky and find a way to compete with the Longhorns.
 
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I'm glad to say that I finalized the details of my trip today. I'll be landing in Columbus at noon and then hopefully down to Campus by four or so. I'm in for tailgating, I'll bring some good stuff with me, anything particularly needed let me know. Let's do this right.
 
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Sorry, we were having way to much fun watching OU lose, to pay much attention to your game. I did follow the play by play though, and it looked like your team played a great game pretty much all the way around.
 
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3 blocked punts and a possible unhealthy Selvin Young? Uh-oh!
We had one blocked PAT and 2 misses. I found out that the second miss was kicked into the LOS. We had no problem with our two punts. They occurred when the walkons where in on offense in case you are curious about why we punted at all. We did make 6 of our 9 PATs though, so it isn't all bad.

As for Selvin, don't worry, Charles and Melton are much worse.

1. Charles, Jamaal____14 / 135 / 1 / 45 / 9.6
2. Young, Selvin______8 / 67 / 1 / 12 / 8.4
3. Melton, Henry______6 / 65 / 2 / 22 / 10.8
4. Taylor, Ramonce____5 / 65 / 1 / 30 / 13.0
 
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Man this game is going to be rockin'. I can't wait.

I think our game was better for us b/c Miami was no slouch and they did come out and hit us. We were just the better team.

ULL was not a very good team, I just think it was kind of like N.C. st. only game last year b4 us was against Richmond and it showed when we played them.

I just hope that the qb(whoever it is) can play calm when they are getting pressured.
 
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