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LaTwan Anderson (official thread)

Outstanding;1654642; said:
Ok, since you answer my question with a question I will do the same.

So why not LA, but Moses, Hendo, Williams, Hyde etc?

Why is one worthy and one is not?

I appreciate you not being condescending with your post, it seems like emotions are running high with some.

Positions, talent next year, attitude, need, etc.
 
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Outstanding;1654620; said:
Sure what else could I be doing right now? My opinion is based off of a somewhat similar situation last year. A young CB from Maryland I believe, was a tOSU "lean" he committed to PSU. When he wanted to change his pledge to tOSU, the staff said no thanks.

Did his talent level change in that time he was at PSU? It is my opinion that it is a privilege to play for tOSU, and it was rumored that Tress felt he spurned us and broke a level of trust with the program. I feel this is a similar situation.

It's not academics, if it was we wouldn't have visited Moses and had Hendo amongst many of the other academic reaches we typically don't see in this number.

It's interesting you don't ask about LA, but only the staff.

Now please dissect my post, and provide a witty comeback, because answering questions and defending my opinion to Internet smart guys is the thrill of my day. But then again......


No sarcasm intended, your explanation is what I hope to see when reading posts on BP. Terse, unexplained opinions are prevalent on the Scout site, etc. and a reason I rarely visit them. Thanks for providing a more detailed response.

Regarding LA's ego, others have already expressed opinions on this, so I assumed your opinion to be similar.
 
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DontHateOState;1654645; said:
Positions, talent next year, attitude, need, etc.
I understand this thought process, but did we "need" 3 potential receivers or 2 more TB's, we did need many linemen, but when you don't offer many it's unlikely you will sign many.
"Talent next year" that's debatable, one in the barn is better than two in the pasture. "Attitude" much has been rumored, but I have seen no facts.

I'm just trying to get answer as to why not LA, but 6th TB and umpteenth receiver, especially with open scholly's.
 
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Outstanding;1654654; said:
I'm just trying to get answer as to why not LA, but 6th TB and umpteenth receiver, especially with open scholly's.

I alluded to this in an earlier post, but I suspect that Anderson needs to show the staff that he wants to be a Buckeye. I really don't think this has anything to do with needs, talent, personality, or grades. He originally chose WVU over OSU and is strongly considering visiting USC. These are not the types of things that will lead Tressel to believe that he really wants to be at OSU. There appear to be other factors at work as well, but as I'm not privy to them, I won't belabor the point. Like it or not "wanting to be a Buckeye" carries a lot of weight in Tressel's recruiting book, and Anderson doesn't appear to have convinced Tressel.
 
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DiamondBuck;1654649; said:
No sarcasm intended, your explanation is what I hope to see when reading posts on BP. Terse, unexplained opinions are prevalent on the Scout site, etc. and a reason I rarely visit them. Thanks for providing a more detailed response.

Regarding LA's ego, others have already expressed opinions on this, so I assumed your opinion to be similar.

Sorry to close sharply within my post, but I get challenged on my every post. I'm members of pay forums so I am not newto this, but it seems many are not as open minded as I expected on a free forum.

In regards to LA's ego or what have you, there has been a lot of speculation, but no facts, he's a kid. He didn't do a drive by with a BeeBee gun or anything, at least not that I know of. I was no angel, neither were many of my friends. But in hindsight many of our mistakes molded us into who we are today and made us better people in the long run.

When it comes to kids, I feel hey, they are kids. They are thrust into the lime light, they have a level "fame" that they are not accustomed to. Some handle it better than others. No one is perfect no matter how awesome our Internet handles make us think we are.
 
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Hodgepodge;1654659; said:
I alluded to this in an earlier post, but I suspect that Anderson needs to show the staff that he wants to be a Buckeye. I really don't think this has anything to do with needs, talent, personality, or grades. He originally chose WVU over OSU and is strongly considering visiting USC. These are not the types of things that will lead Tressel to believe that he really wants to be at OSU. There appear to be other factors at work as well, but as I'm not privy to them, I won't belabor the point. Like it or not "wanting to be a Buckeye" carries a lot of weight in Tressel's recruiting book, and Anderson doesn't appear to have convinced Tressel.
Well said, and it goes back and supports my original post IMO.

"Tressel's book" has served us well in the past, but is far from infallible.

I hope LA shows the staff he wants to be a Buckeye if LA really wants to be one, if that is what needs to be done.

PS. great thread tag?
 
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Outstanding;1654620; said:
Sure what else could I be doing right now?My opinion is based off of a somewhat similar situation last year. A young CB from Maryland I believe, was a tOSU "lean" he committed to PSU. When he wanted to change his pledge to tOSU, the staff said no thanks.

Did his talent level change in that time he was at PSU? It is my opinion that it is a privilege to play for tOSU, and it was rumored that Tress felt he spurned us and broke a level of trust with the program. I feel this is a similar situation.

Now please dissect my post, and provide a witty comeback, because answering questions and defending my opinion to Internet smart guys is the thrill of my day. But then again......

I believe the player you are referencing, the CB from Maryland last year, was Darrell Givens. The situation with him last year was not that similar at all to LA this year.

Darrell Givens visited OSU for the Spring Game, got caught up in the atmosphere, and shortly afterwards, he gave a verbal commitment to OSU. I believe this happened on 04/19/08. Then Darrell Givens went to a Nike Camp at State Penn around 05/10/08 and after that, decommitted from OSU and committed to PSU. He eventually signed with Rutgers.

While there may have been some overtures from him that he might have wanted to have a ship to OSU, this post made by grad on 05/11/08 is somewhat telling:

He is done on the board. There are many many schools that use the "early PT" gauge to evaluate a kid's heart...as soon as Darrell said he thought he could get on the field quicker in Happy Valley, he was done as a Buckeye.

Two things you absolutely cannot coach: heart and swagger.

So if your opinion on the ego thing is based on this, it is based on something that is not a similar situation. Givens had given a verbal to OSU, that is he was not a "OSU lean" as you stated. He decommitted and committed to PSU (only to then sign with Rutgers). We all know that JT stresses to these kids to not give a committment unless being 100% sure and less than a month after committing to OSU, Givens decommits from OSU and commits to PSU!

Sorry but I do not see ego from the staff in this situation; I see the staff evaluating something more closely to what grad posted.
 
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buckiprof;1654667; said:
I believe the player you are referencing, the CB from Maryland last year, was Darrell Givens. The situation with him last year was not that similar at all to LA this year.

Darrell Givens visited OSU for the Spring Game, got caught up in the atmosphere, and shortly afterwards, he gave a verbal commitment to OSU. I believe this happened on 04/19/08. Then Darrell Givens went to a Nike Camp at State Penn around 05/10/08 and after that, decommitted from OSU and committed to PSU. He eventually signed with Rutgers.

While there may have been some overtures from him that he might have wanted to have a ship to OSU, this post made by grad on 05/11/08 is somewhat telling:



So if your opinion on the ego thing is based on this, it is based on something that is not a similar situation. Givens had given a verbal to OSU, that is he was not a "OSU lean" as you stated. He decommitted and committed to PSU (only to then sign with Rutgers). We all know that JT stresses to these kids to not give a committment unless being 100% sure and less than a month after committing to OSU, Givens decommits from OSU and commits to PSU!

Sorry but I do not see ego from the staff in this situation; I see the staff evaluating something more closely to what grad posted.

You are right on the player, but what you have stated is your opinion. I should have elaborated and done my homework, but having to respond to so many negative remarks is tiring and I didn't do due diligence, so a thousand apologies to you.

I still feel there are parallels and that is my opinion.

The truth is we are both speculating in some way or another, unless you or grad are a Buckeye football coaches. I am not and if you are, please don't blow your cover.

You make good points though.

Maybe you can answer my question as to why LA may not be worthy of admittance to this class, but others are? Feel free to use bold letters, as it is late and my concentration is wavering.
 
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3074326;1654681; said:
:sob:

Guys.. let it shake out. We're the Buckeyes regardless, and we'll be fine.
I agree we will be fine either way, but also think we could be possibly better :wink2:.

Either way it's just debating, which many of us obviously enjoy.

Why the crying avatar if you just want us to let it shake out?:cheers:
 
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Jaxbuck;1654689; said:
For the love of god please stop with the social networking sites as links or any kind of news.
Sorry, I'm wired right now, but he has NYT in his title. Last I checked they are a legit source of info and integrity when it comes journo.

Twitter is the fastest way to get the news out like it or not.

I see your from St Augustine, I used to spend my summers there surfing. The hammer heads at the pier we used to stay by are nuts. I'm very jealous, it's beautiful, and the history there is awesome.

How about this link to the NYT's College sport's blog....
http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/
 
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Outstanding;1654690; said:
Sorry, I'm wired right now, but he has NYT in his title. Last I checked they are a legit source of info and integrity when it comes journo.

Hmmm. You might be right. Let's check this out. Jake, could you give us a verdict on this one?
 
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