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Nutriaitch;1956007; said:
one of the best games I ever attended.

seems you'd be more interested in us vacating the ass raping we put on y'all in the SEC championship game that year.



Another awful ending.
Whenver I want to wax nostalgic, I just go and talk to Chad Lavalais. He's usually working 6-midnight at the local Waffle House.
 
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...olations.ap/index.html?sct=hp_t2_a3&eref=sihp

NCAA gives LSU one-year probation for violations

BATON ROUGE, La. (AP) -- The NCAA says LSU committed major violations in its football program while recruiting a junior college player and cited a former assistant coach for unethical conduct.

The probe found that ex-assistant coach D.J. McCarthy improperly arranged for transportation and housing for former defensive lineman Akiem Hicks, then later tried to cover up those actions.

In a ruling issued Tuesday, the NCAA publicly reprimanded LSU and placed it on probation for one year. The NCAA also accepted LSU's self-imposed reduction of two scholarships, as well as reductions in official visits and recruiting calls.

McCarthy resigned in December 2009. Hicks never played for the Tigers before he left LSU.
Any rumors about their involvement with Lyles are not part of this.
 
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The school escaped harsher penalties because it self-reported the recruiting violations and cooperated with investigators, the NCAA said.

I can't imagine for a second that ESPN would be satisfied with this.... It suggests that Ohio State, who has also cooperated, might get away with something less than USC like penalties...
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1956055; said:
I can't imagine for a second that ESPN would be satisfied with this.... It suggests that Ohio State, who has also cooperated, might get away with something less than USC like penalties...

Well, as BB73 pointed out, that goes against the narrative that they're pushing-
Dari Nowkah ? ?Mayday, 2009 never happened, 4 years probation, all because of this $300 situation concerning Demaryius Thomas, and a coverup ? coverup? Have we heard of this recently? How might this affect what the NCAA does with Ohio State, if at all??
Mark May ? ?Well, I think the President of the NCAA, Mark Emmert, right now, he?s in a position where the pressure is on him, because he has to respond, not only to the Ohio State situation, but people are going to question ?If you don?t slap Ohio State now, back to the Leather Helmet Days, for what they have done, what?s going to happen to the teams in the future that do break the rules?? If you look at Georgia Tech for a $300 violation ? USC ? they missed 2 years, they lost scholarships, they won?t be able to go to Bowl Games. If Mark Emmert, if Jim Delany (the Commissioner of the Big Ten), don?t step up to the Ohio State situation, the debacle that happened there, and put them on probation and make sure that they don?t play in Bowl Games the next couple years, the system definitely needs a change. And we all know it needs a change, but right now if you look at this situation, and they don?t do what?s right, it should be an equal and level playing field ? everyone is going to start questioning ?Is the system broken?? .. We know it?s broken, but how do we fix it and when do we fix it??
Dari ? ?Three big words, the NCAA?s throwing down on Georgia Tech, you?ll probably hear them with Ohio State, ?Failure to Cooperate?, that?s something that is included here with Georgia Tech.?
May ? ?Sound familiar??
Dari ? ?It does, and we may be hearing it again.?
 
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The PDF in the first post is from last December, when the NOA was issued. Here is the NCAA's response released today.

NCAA

LSU Cited for Recruiting Violations, Unethical Conduct by Former Coach

INDIANAPOLIS--- Louisiana State University committed major violations in its football program, according to findings by the Division I Committee on Infractions. A former assistant football coach was cited for unethical conduct for his role in the recruiting violations at the center of the case.

The investigation began after the university self-reported the violations to the enforcement staff. The committee lauded the university's compliance staff for its efforts to investigate and uncover the violations.

The committee noted in its report, "The compliance office was proactive, fully investigated and cooperated with the enforcement staff to uncover the full range of the violations."

Penalties include recruiting restrictions, scholarship reductions and one-year probation for the university. The committee reduced the university penalties due to the compliance staff efforts. The former assistant coach received a one-year show-cause order that limits his athletically related duties. The public report includes additional details.

The violations in this case occurred as the university recruited a prospective football student-athlete and included excessive phone calls as well as impermissible lodging and transportation. The committee found the former assistant coach enlisted student workers to take actions he knew or should have known were violations, such as providing transportation and lodging during the prospect's unofficial visit to the university.

In addition, the former assistant coach knowingly committed violations and engaged in actions designed to hide the infractions. These efforts included the use of a second phone to make impermissible phone calls to the prospect and failing to disclose the existence of the phone to the athletics administration or in his initial interviews. He also was involved in a three-way telephone conversation with the prospect and the student worker. This resulted in the student worker providing a fictitious story regarding the prospect's summer living arrangements.

The case included additional violations when three non-coaching staff members made or received more than 3,600 phone calls to or from high school coaches and administrators, prospects and family members of prospective student-athletes.
The penalties, some of which were self-imposed by the university and adopted by the committee, include:

  • Public reprimand and censure.
  • One year of probation from July 19, 2011 through July 18, 2012.
  • One-year show-cause order for the former assistant coach from July 19, 2011 through July 18, 2012. The public report further details these conditions.
  • A 10 percent reduction in official visits for football during the 2010-11 and 2011-12 academic years.
  • A reduction of two initial scholarships (for a total of 23) for the 2011-12 class (self-imposed by the university).
  • A reduction of two overall scholarships (for a total of 83) during the 2010-11 academic year (self-imposed by the university).
  • Recruiting telephone call restrictions as detailed in the public report (self-imposed by the university).
Cont'd ...
 
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3,669 impermissible phone calls = 1 year probation and a loss of 2 scholarships (23/83 for 1 year), and a 10% cut in official visits for 2 years.
 
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BB73;1956077; said:
3,669 impermissible phone calls = 1 year probation and a loss of 2 scholarships (23/83 for 1 year), and a 10% cut in official visits for 2 years.

If the NCAA were a consistent body, this would bode very well for the Buckeyes.

Sadly, we know they aren't, and this should not be viewed as precedent-setting in the upcoming actions the NCAA will take with OSU.
 
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BB73;1956077; said:
3,669 impermissible phone calls = 1 year probation and a loss of 2 scholarships (23/83 for 1 year), and a 10% cut in official visits for 2 years.

And "benefits" (housing/transportation) issues.

Oh, and two instances of 10.1 violations- both by persons (coach/athlete) who are no longer with the program.

Sounds pretty familiar.
 
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MaliBuckeye;1956083; said:
And "benefits" (housing/transportation) issues.

Oh, and two instances of 10.1 violations- both by persons (coach/athlete) who are no longer with the program.

Sounds pretty familiar.

Losing only 2 schollies with that many impermissible phone calls by multiple coaches annoys me. It's a pattern of violations over an extended period of time, not an innocent mistake due to the complexities of the rules or an isolated incident.

If the NCAA really wanted to reduce the cheating by coaches, they could say that in the future, as soon it's been determined that a coach violated a rule while recruiting an athlete, that athlete can never play for that school or that coach. So once all those phone calls were discovered, every guy that was called by a coach when he shouldn't have been would be ineligible, and would have to quit playing or transfer. And he wouldn't be able to transfer to a school that then employed a coach that broke the rules for that kid. Note that I'm only proposing this for future violations, not things that have happened in the past before coaches would have been aware of these consequences.

I know it's drastic and it will never happen, and that guys like RichRod or Lane Kiffin might have burned kids at their old schools out of spite, but it those were the rules, don't you think the coaches would be damn sure they were following them? And the head coach would be making damn sure that his assistants were following the rules?
 
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