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NBA Finals - Celtics vs. Lakers

OCBucksFan;1177608; said:
CBF40, I love your input, I don't agree with it most of the time, but it is very appreciated. I realize you don't have a "favorite team" in these playoffs, but I do think you are biased to the eastern conference, just as I was last year, otherwise, I think we just agree to disagree and I can't wait for the games to start tomorrow :)

No reason for bias...If anything you would think I would be rooting against the Celtics due to them beating the Cavs...

BTW watched NBA fastbreak last night and 4 out of the 5 guys picked the Lakers and a couple of them said it would be easy for them...Tim Legler was the only guy to pick the Celtics...

Yeah I saw that game, and it was impressive, but he wont hit a lot of those shots consistently, and his team absolutely needed every one of those points. LBJ isn't the defender Kobe is, and if Pierce gets that hot then Phil will switch Kobe on him and dare Allen to beat us, which he could do if he is on fire, but he only really had 2 good games in the last series, and I don't know if he can be their primary scorer.

Yeah some of them were tough shots, but whenever he got a matchup against Sasha or anyone else he took it right to them and scored easy buckets...I would say that Sasha is better or just as good a defender as Radmonovich will be against Pierce...Maybe on reputation about the defender, but in the playoffs LBJ was playing great defense, and I think it is harder to get a shot off against a 6'9'' 260 guy then a 6'6'' guy...

Just curious who is going to guard Allen if Kobe switches to Pierce...If Radmonovich is on the court is he going to guard him? Would be easier if Walton was on the court for Kobe to switch to Pierce or Vujacic, but with the starters on the floor it is going to be hard for Kobe to switch to Pierce IMO...

The thing is if he isn't the primary scorer they have Garnett to be, and if neither of those two are they have Allen...
 
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I just can't watch these games, it's too nerve-wracking. I end up screaming at the TV every time a call goes against the Celts. I think I'll just check out the highlights when it's over.

This could end up being a classic series though. Go Celtics!
 
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Interesting to see the talk on the matchups. I've heard almost no commentary on it (because I haven't been watching ESPN all week).

My thoughts:

When LA has the ball:
The Celtics can guard anybody on LA, with one exception, but it's a glaring one - they don't have anybody than can stay with Kobe. Against the Spurs, sometimes LA would get Odom the ball up high and he could drive on whichever big was guarding him. That goes away with Garnett on him. I think that Garnett is the best outside defender among any big in the league, and he can control Odom. Perkins can muscle Gasol and hold him to respectable but not damaging numbers. Rondo is quicker than Fisher, who will be little more than a spot-up shooter on offense in this series. Pierce can limit Radmanovic as long as he stays on him, Radmanovic won't create his own shot very often. Among the starters, that leaves Ray Allen on Kobe. After watching Joe Johnson score almost at will on Allen in the opening round, Kobe should be salivating about being guarded by Ray Allen in the national spotlight. I think that after Kobe goes off, they'll have to double Kobe constantly, and then the Lakers shooters should do the damage. If they switch Pierce to Kobe, which they'll have to try at some point, Pierce loses a lot on the offensive end, like he did against LeBron. They do have Posey off the bench, who is a solid defender and will surely spend some time on Kobe. But when he's on the floor it takes away from the Celtics offense - he can shoot the 3 a little, but doesn't add much else to the offense.

So the Lakers offense will be Kobe exploding if he's single-covered, the other guys hitting 3's and easy shots if he's always doubled. The key for LA is to recognize what the Celtics defense is doing and attack it correctly. The team only came together in midseason, but they've grown together in 3 rounds of the playoffs, and have beaten two good defensive teams in a row (Utah and the Spurs).

When Boston has the ball:
Both Gasol and Odom have the length to bother KG's shot, and they can take turns guarding him. The other guy just needs to pay attention to Perkins and keep him off the offensive glass. Fisher is stronger than Rondo, and I think quick enough to stay with him since he doesn't have to stay tight to stop his outside shot. When Rondo does get past him, he'll have trouble finishing inside against Gasol and Odom. Radmanovic is taller than Pierce, but Pierce will be able to score on him. Kobe can shut down Ray Allen if that's what they want him to do. I think they'll end up putting Kobe on Pierce a fair amount of the time, since Pierce will be the Celtics best option if anybody besides Kobe is guarding him. If Allen is guared by Radmanovic, he'll be able to drive on him some, but he'll also have trouble finishing inside against the length of Gasol and Odom.

Bench:
Farmar and Cassell - a wash, neither will do a whole lot.
Vujacic and Posey - offensive edge to Vujacic, defensive edge to Posey
Walton and P.J. Brown - both smart players that can hit the open shot
Turiaf and Powe/Davis - Turiaf will block some shots, the other guys will rebound better

Coaching:
A big advantage for L.A. I know Doc Rivers led the Celtics to the best record in the league, but I thought he was terrible in the Atlanta series, and not much better in the Detroit series (Flip Saunders was just as bad). When it comes to adjustments, Phil and his staff of assistants have all a ton of experience. I expect this to favor the Lakers significantly.

Prediction:
I believe that no team has ever closed out the NBA Finals by winning all 3 games in the middle of the 2-3-2 format, but I'm guessing that's what happens this year. A split in Boston, and the Lakers win in 5.

By the way, I hate the Lakers. I also hate the Celtics (I literally couldn't sleep in '87 after Bird's late steal beat the Pistons). That was before the Pistons had won anything, so of course I now hate them as well. :biggrin:
 
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tibor75;1178416; said:
Paul Pierce just wheeled off the court with a leg injury.

And he's back, much respect to him, I like P.P. he's a good player and has always been a pretty loyal guy, there's players that if they got knocked out (Casell) I would be like, "karma you fucking mercenary" but he's not one of them.
 
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Pierce carried off the floor, then Perkins limps off. I sure hope they can walk 'em off, especially Pierce. The Celtics have no shot without The Truth. :shake:
 
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Jake;1178422; said:
Pierce carried off the floor, then Perkins limps off. I sure hope they can walk 'em off, especially Pierce. The Celtics have no shot without The Truth. :shake:





The place got real quiet, but once he returned electricity. I like Paul pierce, he is a Damm good solid player.
 
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