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Ohio State Men's Lacrosse (2013 ECAC Champions)

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rampageripster said:
Oh without a doubt...

Did you see the officials wiff on a too-many-men by G'Town? Had 8 defenders for like 15 seconds and then just ran a guy off and they completely missed it.
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Sadly, no. Didn't watch that game (yet). 8 Defenders with the goalie included?

Was a crazy weekend. Kid played twice on Sat and then I was supposed to have a game... and the rest of the weekend was getting the basement ready for the framers to show up. Games were on the entire time I was home but really only _watched_ UMD and the Denver game. Watched the 4th of the Cuse game and that was enough for me to be happy.

Hope to get in all the games this weekend though.


So, ruling question for you:
Goalie comes out of crease and lays out A1.
Called for 2-min unnecessary roughness and gets locked in.

Backup goalie goes in the game to take over during the man down (no warm up given btw... but that's another story).

If, during non-dead ball situation, original goalie goes on field and goalie is carrying his stick, do you call it if they are not involved in a play?

Thankfully, it never happened but was close. I called down from the booth to the goalie on his knee and told him to get his stick on the field during a dead ball situation... but that never happened and it was a clean exchange of goalies on a dead ball. Even if they had run on the other stick, I'm not convinced that would have been legal either as it would have required the kids to switch sticks... but I'm not aware of a rule for that when neither player has the ball. I'd take my chances with switching sticks over running to goalie sticks onto the defensive end of the field.

But, I did coach a game a couple of weeks ago where our kids switched sticks with ball in one of the sticks as a trick play -- much to our chagrin -- and the official didn't know the rule for it. The other bench went crazy... and rightfully so. LOL.
 
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sparcboxbuck said:
Sadly, no. Didn't watch that game (yet). 8 Defenders with the goalie included?

Was a crazy weekend. Kid played twice on Sat and then I was supposed to have a game... and the rest of the weekend was getting the basement ready for the framers to show up. Games were on the entire time I was home but really only _watched_ UMD and the Denver game. Watched the 4th of the Cuse game and that was enough for me to be happy.

Hope to get in all the games this weekend though.


So, ruling question for you:
Goalie comes out of crease and lays out A1.
Called for 2-min unnecessary roughness and gets locked in.

Backup goalie goes in the game to take over during the man down (no warm up given btw... but that's another story).

If, during non-dead ball situation, original goalie goes on field and goalie is carrying his stick, do you call it if they are not involved in a play?

Thankfully, it never happened but was close. I called down from the booth to the goalie on his knee and told him to get his stick on the field during a dead ball situation... but that never happened and it was a clean exchange of goalies on a dead ball. Even if they had run on the other stick, I'm not convinced that would have been legal either as it would have required the kids to switch sticks... but I'm not aware of a rule for that when neither player has the ball. I'd take my chances with switching sticks over running to goalie sticks onto the defensive end of the field.

But, I did coach a game a couple of weeks ago where our kids switched sticks with ball in one of the sticks as a trick play -- much to our chagrin -- and the official didn't know the rule for it. The other bench went crazy... and rightfully so. LOL.
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So I am confused... Team A is man down. Their keeper is in the box. When the penalty is released the keeper comes on to the field meaning you have two equipped keepers on the field? This is illegal procedure. Now, you could make an argument that if it did not affect play (say Team A has possession deep in their offensive zone) you should just let it ride, but I'm probably turning the ball over here calling illegal procedure. If he entered the field with a short stick, the problem is not exchanging the crosses, but instead would be that you would have a correctly equipped keeper and an inadequately equipped filed player (no arm pads or shoulder pads). Still illegal procedure.

Only way to do this legally is to sub the keepers. But it has to be a timely sub. You can't play without a keeper. Actually called this in an MCLA game this year when a team didn;t have a backup and had to change gear. It was a full strip-down in the box. For game management purposes, I let the original keeper get his gear on, and THEN turned the ball over. Glad they didn't score or something in that time.
 
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rampageripster said:
So I am confused... Team A is man down. Their keeper is in the box. When the penalty is released the keeper comes on to the field meaning you have two equipped keepers on the field? This is illegal procedure. Now, you could make an argument that if it did not affect play (say Team A has possession deep in their offensive zone) you should just let it ride, but I'm probably turning the ball over here calling illegal procedure. If he entered the field with a short stick, the problem is not exchanging the crosses, but instead would be that you would have a correctly equipped keeper and an inadequately equipped filed player (no arm pads or shoulder pads). Still illegal procedure.

Only way to do this legally is to sub the keepers. But it has to be a timely sub. You can't play without a keeper. Actually called this in an MCLA game this year when a team didn;t have a backup and had to change gear. It was a full strip-down in the box. For game management purposes, I let the original keeper get his gear on, and THEN turned the ball over. Glad they didn't score or something in that time.
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That's pretty much it. Actually here in IL, I think that goalies are supposed to be wearing elbows and goodness knows, a chest protector is probably better coverage than most of the field-lax shoulder pads kids wear... So, in that event, sending the second goalie on the field with a shortie wouldn't have been a problem. Glad it didn't come to that. It was a mess of a game... a lot of soft calls that went both ways. At one point we had three on a knee, and managed to kill the penalties. Two 30-second and one 1-minute.
 
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1-1 after the first Q.

Won the draw for the 2nd with a quick goal in 5 seconds.

Second draw was a penalty against MU. Hidden ball trick Terefenko for a 3-1 lead 16 seconds into the second Q.

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6-3 at the half.

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8-6 after 3
 
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sparcboxbuck said:
1-1 after the first Q.

Won the draw for the 2nd with a quick goal in 5 seconds.

Second draw was a penalty against MU. Hidden ball trick Terefenko for a 3-1 lead 16 seconds into the second Q.

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6-3 at the half.

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8-6 after 3
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Final 13-9. Amplo’s kids can play. He’s doing a great job at MU. This was a good game for Nick to make the team grind it out.

Killed it at the dot. Have to look up the stats, but with an extra 12-15 possessions four goal win is feels tighter than it should.
 
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