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Can you choose a less effeminate gif please? I want to punch that guy in the face
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Can you choose a less effeminate gif please? I want to punch that guy in the face
LovelandBuckeye
You never lose to those pricks. Ever. Ever. - UFM
That's the joke. It's the hair isn't it?
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https://www.barrons.com/articles/th...f-many-involving-higher-education-51552700604
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My personal outrage meter ought to be registering an eight out of 10 over this case, but it’s stuck at 4.5. The problem is I recently uncovered some other scandalous college facts as part of a sweeping investigation using Google for nearly an hour. Among them:
New York University charges $6,500 for Calculus I. That’s tuition and fees, not books, residence, and a Vespa scooter. The rules of calculus were laid down more than 300 years ago by two guys in wigs. You can learn everything for free on YouTube. So where does all this pricing power come from? Hold that thought.
It’s not just math, and it’s not just NYU. The sticker price for the average private four-year college is now over $50,000 a year, including room and board. Do you know what else $200,000 in cash can buy a 22-year-old? A $3 million retirement, if the money is invested at about a 6% year return until age 68.
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My personal outrage meter ought to be registering an eight out of 10 over this case, but it’s stuck at 4.5. The problem is I recently uncovered some other scandalous college facts as part of a sweeping investigation using Google for nearly an hour. Among them:
New York University charges $6,500 for Calculus I. That’s tuition and fees, not books, residence, and a Vespa scooter. The rules of calculus were laid down more than 300 years ago by two guys in wigs. You can learn everything for free on YouTube. So where does all this pricing power come from? Hold that thought.
It’s not just math, and it’s not just NYU. The sticker price for the average private four-year college is now over $50,000 a year, including room and board. Do you know what else $200,000 in cash can buy a 22-year-old? A $3 million retirement, if the money is invested at about a 6% year return until age 68.
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I’m sure I won’t get a ton of support with my opinion on this, but WTF it is the off-season.
It seems that the weight placed on a 16-18 year olds ability to take a standardized test (ACT/SAT) for college entrance and scholarship money is a bit absurd.
I would think weighing the test results in conjunction with high school transcripts, the high school’s scholarly programs and the students pursuit of those offerings, extra curricular activities including sports and community involvement, etc. would speak more to the well roundedness of the applicant.
Why someone who did shit throughout high school and wakes up one day and posts a tremendous test score is more worthy of entrance and scholarship monies compared to a well rounded individual who busted ass for their academic years and posted an okay test score is beyond me. Not everyone is a test taker and life isn’t about being good at taking tests.
Fuck all these people it just shows that money talks and the middle class walks....
It seems that the weight placed on a 16-18 year olds ability to take a standardized test (ACT/SAT) for college entrance and scholarship money is a bit absurd.
I would think weighing the test results in conjunction with high school transcripts, the high school’s scholarly programs and the students pursuit of those offerings, extra curricular activities including sports and community involvement, etc. would speak more to the well roundedness of the applicant.
Why someone who did shit throughout high school and wakes up one day and posts a tremendous test score is more worthy of entrance and scholarship monies compared to a well rounded individual who busted ass for their academic years and posted an okay test score is beyond me. Not everyone is a test taker and life isn’t about being good at taking tests.
Fuck all these people it just shows that money talks and the middle class walks....
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Jagdaddy
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The University of Denver is making submission of SAT/ACT scores optional. It will be interesting to see how it works for them in the rankings game: Pretty well if they get to only count the kids who opt in for their averages I'd imagine. I doubt it will change their student body much. It will also be interesting to see if they really don't hold not submitting scores against applicants. https://www.du.edu/news/university-denver-moves-test-optional-admission-process
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
With the absurd level of grade inflation, everyone gets a trophy mentality and affluent parents who show up to teacher meetings with their lawyers, I think gpa has become a joke. I read somewhere that there is an absurd percentage of high school students who graduate these days with perfect 4.0 (or above) averages. ACT/SAT and class rank seem to be the things that still show whether a school should admit a student.
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GPA as a metric died the second teachers started getting fired for giving students 0s for not turning in work instead of 50s
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Jagdaddy
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I think that these these things all, to an extent, reflect the same underlying thing. That in a knowledge-based economy where technological and societal change outpace anybody's ability to keep up, everything is permanently recorded, specialization keeps increasing, and it's increasingly difficult to actually judge anyone's overall merits (or have the time to try), we've become much more prone to do what Europe has done for centuries: Sort by credentials rather than performance. In such a society, having gone to an "elite" college is one of the biggest credentials out there and it's a easy proxy for "that person's smart and hard working and knows how to interact in a white collar setting" even if sometimes some or all of those things aren't true. Parents see this and act to protect their young accordingly. Similarly, in law if you initially get a job at a big law firm you can probably keep getting such jobs, at least for a while, even if your performance isn't up to snuff. If you don't, it's an uphill climb to ever get one of those jobs even if you perform very well elsewhere.
IMO, and personal experience, the education received from an institution isn't "better" at an "elite" school than it is at a big state school, but you probably do learn more from your fellow students if you pay attention. I do think that the people I went to law school with were, all in all, the smartest and most driven group of people I've been around, while some of that is a more "elite" school, I'm sure that a lot of it is just that it's a professional rather than an undergraduate program. I will say for sure that many of my law school classmates, especially ones whose parents were big shot lawyers or who went to East coast private schools, knew infinitely more about how to "play the game" than I did.
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One of my closest friends in HS scored a perfect 1520 on the PSAT.
Last time I checked up on him via FB he was bouncing between $15/hr machinist jobs and homelessness.
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