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NCAA Basketball

(18) TTUN @ (20) Ohio State

MD Buckeye, Feb 11, 2014

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This Event was settled Feb 12, 2014
  1. WolverineMike

    WolverineMike Senior

    There was one play that really stood out for me watching Amir Williams. I think it was in the second half, he had a blocked shot, the entire osu team went racing up the court on the fast break but they couldn't get to the rim and had to pass it back out to the top of the key........AND THEN Williams made it back up the court. There were several buckeye fans around me booing him and calling him lazy. He should have dominated Morgan and Horford, but they never went inside to him.
     
  2. DZ83CK

    DZ83CK Not Banned

    Sam Thompson was not a McDonald's All-American. And none of those three guys were in the top-30 in their high school class. Scott and Williams only made the team because there appeared to be a scarcity of better prospects at their positions.
     
  3. DZ83CK

    DZ83CK Not Banned

    But I think this team more or less goes as Craft goes. When he has a mediocre game like tonight, they lose. When he plays great, they win.
     
  4. mendensa

    mendensa Senior

    DZ83CK: I do hear what you are saying but it does not excuse the fact that Amir was ranked as the 5th rated Center (scout) coming out of HS and after 3 years he has shown minimal progress. You expect more development after 3 years than that. He shows glimpses of adequate post moves and power dunks........when he is 2 feet from the basket and unguarded. He also shows glimpses of the dominant shot blocker he could be......when he isn't being lazy and out of position. And then he shows all the other negatives......you guys have all watched his play this year so far so I won't pile on.
     
    Last edited: Feb 12, 2014
  5. Steve19

    Steve19 Watching. Always watching. Staff Member

    I take the comments about Craft, but the lackadaisical attitude of Williams in palpable. Constantly out of position. That silly foul on the errant three-point attempt late in the game. Very disappointing play that is determined by attitude, not ability.
     
    scarletmike and shetuck like this.
  6. lvbuckeye

    lvbuckeye Silver Surfer

    Says it all. No wonder coach was 'on his dick.'
     
  7. lvbuckeye

    lvbuckeye Silver Surfer

    Maybe the coach shouldn't let a slacker on the court. Because you just described a slacker to a tee.
     
  8. buckeyesin07

    buckeyesin07 Veni. Vidi. Vici.

    This is a great observation. OSU was playing pretty good defense on UM in the half court set, except for a handful of times in the second half where Walton got by Scott and dished to Horford or Morgan for an easy bucket. UM was missing shots, and this game is a W (even with the atrocious 3-20 from three point land) if the rebounding is better. UM got way too many second chance points.
     
  9. Onebuckfan

    Onebuckfan classof76

    That sounds like recruiting misses from a class everyone was crowing about...
     
  10. Bill Lucas

    Bill Lucas Senior

    1) Why are you in this thread? Go away.
    2) Williams has hands of stone and his footwork and court awareness is horrendous. He doesn't have the skill set for this team to play inside out offensively. If you knew basketball, you'd see and know this.
    3) Refer to #1.
     
  11. germ

    germ Freshman

    Were you decked out in Michigan gear?
    Well I guess Thad does not know basketball since he recruited him, which I do not believe. The bigger issue is Craft, in today's game you need a point guard who can score. Michigan dared Craft to shoot the ball all night, he did once and he air balled it. Get a point guard who can score then teams would not be doubling down on Amir all night.
     
  12. buckeyesin07

    buckeyesin07 Veni. Vidi. Vici.

    Craft is, and always has been, limited as a shooter. It doesn't take John Wooden (although apparently it takes someone with a bit more basketball knowledge than you have) to know that he more than makes up for it on the defensive end (he more than held his own against Stauskas, to whom he was giving up 4 to 5 inches in height) and he's great at getting to the basket (as he showed against your team last night).

    Amir's problems have nothing to do with Craft--they are pretty accurately summed up by Bill Lucas' post above and by reference to a lack of fundamentals.
     
  13. buckeyesin07

    buckeyesin07 Veni. Vidi. Vici.

    You're really attempting to support your argument by referencing what idiot fans were yelling from the cheap seats in the upper deck last night? :lol:
     
  14. germ

    germ Freshman

    So Thad recruits players with lacking fundamentals? OSU who has developed some really good college big men, but cannot develop Amir?

    Stauskas had 15 on just nine shots, I'll take that from Nick.
    Start knocking down some three's and watch how good Amir becomes. My son and I watch OSU every time they play for the sole purpose of watching Craft play defense, but the Game has changed the last 4 years. If you cannot score as a point guard, you're team is going to have a tough time.

    Point guards like Burke have change the game.
     
    Last edited: Feb 12, 2014
  15. WolverineMike

    WolverineMike Senior

    I kept it classy. Just had a Michigan shirt on.


    Everybody around me was pretty respectful and talked to me throughout the game. Good time. Atmosphere was off the hook during the first half. Crowd was really into it. That arena can get loud.
     

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