Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[Delaware Buck]

Except for the whole contiguous states thing.

At this point in the game I gotta think that's out the window. It's just down to revenue now.

 

[Muck]

You are right in that UVa is a much better academic fit. The question will be does Delany want that or the potential eyeballs that BC brings.

People talk about DC/NY being ambivalent towards UMD/RU. A good chunk of Boston actively despises BC.

The B1G going to 16 and picking up Rutgers, Maryland, Virginia, & North Carolina would be a gigantic coup; but I don't see it happening unless the ACC implodes. For the ACC to implode the SEC and Big XII would have to make a simultaneous grab of most of the other ACC schools, Something like:

Duke & Virginia Tech to SEC = 16
Fla State, Miami, Clemson, NC St, Georgia Tech & Wake Forest to Big XII = 16

Nope will never happen.

After VPI, NC State would probably be next on the SEC list going by the scenarios most people post. After they picked up A&M & MO Slive made a comment that if future expansion happened it wouldn't be about grabbing new markets for them, which would imply that maybe FSU or (less likely) Clemson would be on the board. Duke & the SEC would never work (from either end).

And you don't really believe that the Big 12 would take Wake do you?

I'd actually prefer GT to the Big 10 and virginia to the Big XII in that scenario. I also wouldn't mind picking up BC somehow.

Virginia would be a huge score for the conference. Virginia would be the B1G's Stanford. Picking up the major University in VA (sorry VPI fans) would also be more important over the long term than being an afterthought in GA.

The Championship game should be at the center of gravity for the conference. Right now that's Indy or Chicago.

The CG should be located wherever is in the best interest of the league. Having the B1G championship in the center of the east coast media mafia would be a huge boon. Not every obviously but an occasional NY game would be big.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

People talk about DC/NY being ambivalent towards UMD/RU. A good chunk of Boston actively despises BC.

So you're sayin' we make a play for Tufts?

 

[Muck]

So you're sayin' we make a play for Tufts?

lol No. I just don't think that BC brings much to the table. Worst case scenario even if RU & UMD don't generate the FB interest that much of this is predicated on, they still help lock down two prime recruiting regions and are fantastic additions to the CIC. BC doesn't provide either of those benefits.

 

[Roundabout]

Didn't mean short term...

That's premature and pandering a little bit too much to the eastern teams IMO. If you're going to put it outside, put it at Soldier Field.

Long term though I'd love them to cycle thru some outside stadiums... Chicago, Cleveland, Green Bay, and New Jersey would make a decent 4 year rotation though.

 

[Nicknam4]

So apparently if this all goes through we won't play a home-home series with each legends team for 12 years...

 

[Bucknut24]

Same people who passed down the BIG10 move for us, said UMD is heavily heavily heavily lobbying UVA and UNC to join them. They are really pushing the Big Public School conference angle. It would be an absolute power house of academics if they did that.

from my MD friend again

 

[Muck]

Maryland President Wallace Loh to brief Board of Regents on Big Ten move

University of Maryland President Wallace Loh will brief the Board of Regents via telephone late Sunday afternoon about the school’s possible move to the Big Ten, two individuals with direct knowledge of the situation said Sunday morning.

The Board of Regents, which oversees the entire University of Maryland system, will vote on the proposal at a meeting on Monday, but only Chair James L. Shea and Vice Chair Barry P. Gossett have received any detail so far. Shea and Gossett have been involved in the discussions since they started, the sources said. The rest of the Board of Regents have been kept in the dark until this point. When reached by phone Gossett declined comment, citing the situation’s sensitivity.

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Gary Williams is on board...
Ex-coach Gary Williams says move to Big Ten would help UM

Former Maryland coach Gary Williams said today that the school's proposed move to the Big Ten would be a tremendous boost for the Terps' athletic program.

In a telephone interview with The Baltimore Sun today, Williams said the school's long history with ACC doesn't pay the bills.

"You look around today with what's going on, and those schools [in the Big Ten] are certainly in keeping with what Maryland feels about academics. You look at a school like Notre Dame that signed its own TV contract and are now partially joining the ACC. They're looking out for their university. I think Maryland is looking at what's best for them for the future. It's not about today."

Williams, who played at Maryland in the mid-1960s, returned to his alma mater from Ohio State in 1989 after coaching in the Big Ten for three years. He also served as an analyst on the Big Ten Network last season after retiring in May 2011.

"I coached in the [ACC] for 22 years. There's great memories there, without a doubt. At the same time, you have to look at what's best for the university," Williams said. "I'm familiar with the Big Ten, coaching there and working at the Big Ten Network last year. I think I have a decent perspective. If I was coaching at Maryland now, historically in football there's been good years [for the ACC], but the league has never been where it can pull your football program along a little bit."

Williams thinks that many older fans will look forward to renewing a rivalry with Penn State in football -- the teams last played in 1993 -- and that the basketball team will get out from the shadow of Duke and North Carolina to play in what is arguably a stronger league right now.

"Who's our rival in football? You can't come up with a name and neither can I," Williams said. "Who's our rival in basketball? We can say Duke and Carolina, but we basically will be playing them once a year now. Duke and Carolina, that's the rivalry. They don't look at it as Maryland being their rival. The old ACC where you play everyone twice a year and see who's the best team at the end of the year, that's not happening anymore. The Big Ten, last I checked, had five teams in the top 20 in basketball."

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[Mike80]

it's an interesting angle to be sure....but do UVA and UNC value what Maryland is saying?

 

[Mike80]

Gary Williams is on board...
Ex-coach Gary Williams says move to Big Ten would help UM

So in getting Ntre Ame to agree to do whatever it is they are doing in the ACC, it's started the pieces moving for Maryland (and maybe UVA and UNC) to look out for their own university's best interests.

 

[Muck]

So in getting Ntre Ame to agree to do whatever it is they are doing in the ACC, it's started the pieces moving for Maryland (and maybe UVA and UNC) to look out for their own university's best interests.

Sweet delicious schadenfreude

 

[Wingate1217]

Long term though I'd love them to cycle thru some outside stadiums... Chicago, Cleveland, Green Bay, and New Jersey would make a decent 4 year rotation though.

Maybe we should have it in Slappy Valley? That would be the only way that fan base will see a championship game in the next decade....

 

[Muck]

I'd actually prefer GT to the Big 10 and virginia to the Big XII in that scenario. I also wouldn't mind picking up BC somehow.

Virginia would be a huge score for the conference. Virginia would be the B1G's Stanford. Picking up the major University in VA (sorry VPI fans) would also be more important over the long term than being an afterthought in GA.

I forgot to mention that there is some noise that Rutgers isn't the target for #14, that instead it might actually be Georgia Tech.

Georgia Tech could also be in mix for Big Ten, report indicates

The chatter over the past 24 hours about Big Ten expansion has focused on Maryland, and then Rutgers. But is it possible that another Atlantic Coast Conference school is also being eyed by the Big Ten? Jeff Ermann, whose Maryland.247sports.com site focuses on the Terrapins athletic program, indicated that his sources are telling him that Georgia Tech could be a Big Ten target.

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I wouldn't hate a Maryland/Georgia Tech combo.

Rutgers fans would probably start jumping off of bridges though.

Remember we've seen all this before. Jiggle one piece a little bit (Missouri, Maryland) to destabilize things and see what shakes loose (Nebraska, ?).

Maybe we should have it in Slappy Valley? That would be the only way that fan base will see a championship game in the next decade....

Don't even joke... *shudder*

Sweet delicious schadenfreude

Speaking of that tasty dish...

Just think of the potential of bringing in eastern partners for Penn State at the very lowest point of their existence. What if Maryland (+ whoever) reels off a few wins against the depleted 'nits and actually becomes a more popular destination for eastern seaboard recruits setting up a potential long term shift in power?

I get tingly just thinking about it.

 

[redguard117]

New Jersey is loaded with talent, but we (and most Big Ten teams) have no problems recruiting there. Gaining a foothold in Maryland, and in the deeper South with GT would be a huge boon to recruiting. Maybe not so much for us or scUM but for the rest of the conference.

And if we plan to return to top dog (or, at least, parity) among the big conferences, the rest of us need to start recruiting better. Nebraska not finishing with a top 10 to top 15 class each year is criminal. Wisconsin and MSU should at least be able to break the top 25. Adding GT and Maryland would only help. Look for those teams to target VA, NC and even SEC states.

 

[Bucknut24]

I forgot to mention that there is some noise that Rutgers isn't the target for #14, that instead it might actually be Georgia Tech.

I wouldn't hate a Maryland/Georgia Tech combo.

Rutgers fans would probably start jumping off of bridges though.



Don't even joke... *shudder*

I gotta think it would be Rutgers, it seemed like Delany has had a hard on for Rutgers for a while now