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2017 tOSU Offense Discussion

Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by ScriptOhio, Jan 5, 2017.

  1. buckeyboy

    buckeyboy Taller than most...

    My worst fear is Urban makes a change at QB and nothing changes on the field. I'm not sure how you can think things will improve dramatically if he doesn't let Wilson call the plays consistently. On the bright side, Burrows/Haskins get in-game experience. The bad news is this season becomes a wash. I"m not ready to write it off yet but I don't have a good feeling about things.

    There's a lot of news now coming out about a fractured team. This is where we need those nine captains to step the fuck up and right this ship.
     
  2. buckeyebri

    buckeyebri Cool is a rule but sometimes bad is bad

    Where is this news?
     
  3. bukIpower

    bukIpower Senior

    I mean what could it hurt? I don't care how close this game is on Saturday our back up QB should take some snaps regardless.

    At home and against Army is the perfect time to play the back up. I also don't buy that Haskins is worse then JT and isn't ready for game action.

    JT Barrett wasn't ready in 14 but had to step up to help this program and he surprised everyone. Coaches included.

    This team isn't fractured... it was one game... give me a break it's not that bad.
     
  4. HorseshoeFetish

    HorseshoeFetish Silver Bullet Supporter

    Yeah if it wasn't my favorite team in all of sports I'd be making a meme or two.
     
  5. bukIpower

    bukIpower Senior

    I am not going to bother looking for when I said it but I just remembered I posted something not long ago that proved true... I said if we start running JT a bunch then we should be worried because it means we are self destructing
     
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  6. lvbuckeye

    lvbuckeye Silver Surfer

    It's not one game. Not even close.

    Former players are calling Meyer's offense trash on social media, and I'm not talking about Corey Smith. I'm talking about guys in the NFL. Current recruits are questioning coach Meyer on social media. If you think the players in the locker room aren't thinking the same thing, you're delusional.
     
  7. buckeyboy

    buckeyboy Taller than most...

    I read it on Twitter yesterday from the poster jbook. I know it's Twitter. I checked this morning and was unable to find the post. He might have since deleted it.
     
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  8. AuTX Buckeye

    AuTX Buckeye Beam me up, Mr. Speaker. '14 Yahoo Pickem Champ Former Game Champion

    jbook can be on point but he tends to be dramatic, he "contributes" to bucknuts so he is probably saying [Mark May] to try to get some more scrips
     
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  9. bukIpower

    bukIpower Senior

    I will give you that... well it's obvious there's frustration and perhaps it's bleeding into the defensive side now because they're tired of having to go win a game when we play anyone worth a damn.

    Most of the ex and current buckeyes when they do voice bash the play calling and lately the QB play. I think we start with those two places.

    It's not Kevin Wilson that's the issue and if our performance continues I will firmly stand by Kevin because he's PROVEN to be a great coordinator over a very long career. He just didn't all the sudden forget how to call an offense.

    UFM needs to give Kevin control and do whatever necessary to become dynamic. Stop running the QB, start getting JT some confidence, and the last point is so important I felt I need to mention it twice which is UFM stay out of the way!!
     
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  10. sparcboxbuck

    sparcboxbuck What happened to my ┬Ącash?

    I stand by BukIpower.
     
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  11. LostLassie

    LostLassie Scarlet, Gray, and Gold

    Sadly, the joke is on us.
     
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  12. Tanner

    Tanner Senior

    Couldn't agree more with Ross Fulton that the pass game and the run have very little connection to one another and they don't compliment and enhance one another.
     
  13. 1926Buckeyes

    1926Buckeyes Senior

    So what are reasonable expectations to have when it comes to improving the offense? Lots of improvement happened over the course of 2014, but this feels like a larger problem that has persisted for 2 full seasons.

    Even if Meyer is convinced that larger changes need to be made, that doesn't seem like something that can happen before facing PSU. Maybe I'm overestimating the time needed to make real changes.
     
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  14. lvbuckeye

    lvbuckeye Silver Surfer

    Can anyone remember the last time there was a counter run?
     
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  15. sg86

    sg86 Rookie


    On the offense, I expect better communication from the line as they get more experience and continued growth from the RBs but that's all I expect.

    How many times can a philosophy completely fail to work before you take the stance that the problem isn't necessarily the execution, it's the philosophy. Is the execution bad? Sure, at times it's very bad. But there's a lot of failure with the offense that's simply inherent in what they want to do.

    If the problem was simple execution, the losses would be close losses, but most of them have been losses where the offense has looked 100% ineffective. It hasn't been a matter of a drop or two or a fumble or an interception or wrong route, etc. Execution can be a reasonable excuse when you lose by a possession or so.

    When you get completely destroyed in the same way in virtually every loss you've had over the last couple seasons, that's not an execution failure. There's something inherently flawed in what you're trying to do.

    Elite teams don't base their strategies around what's effective against the basement dwellers on their schedule. They tailor their play to achieve their ultimate goal which is to defeat other elite teams.

    Ohio State has a very clear way in which they would like to win games and they appear ready and willing to use performance against bad teams to justify the continued pursuit of winning with these proven flawed philosophies.

    What they want to do might work with correct personnel, but it cannot work with the personnel they have currently committed themselves to using - most notably Barrett but also their Al Davis-esque need to use speedy receivers who can't catch as opposed to slower guys with more size or skill.

    How many times do you have to see poor play from Campbell or McLaurin before you allow other people to take those snaps? And why does one catch and run against a completely gassed defense negate the drops, lazy routes, poor blocking, etc., that we've seen from Campbell.

    I can understand Meyer's mindset in terms of being hesitant to bench Barrett. I get it. There's no one else with real experience to lean on. But something about the offense isn't working, so you have to try something new. Open up the playbook. Allow Victor & Mack to get more run. Do something.

    As it is, they seem to want to continue the same flawed QB run-option oriented playcalling, continue to use Barrett AND continue with the same WR rotation and simply look at everyone and say "play better" as if that's going to fix the issue.

    As a fan, I hope to God they win out, but if they lose another game (and at this rate, it's very likely), Urban deserves 100% of the blame.
     
    Last edited: Sep 12, 2017
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