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5 players suspended for 5 games in 2011 regular season (Appeal has been denied)

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BrutusBuckeyeAZ;1840595; said:
I am really torn on this. I want to see Ohio State do well next year, but to see these boys disrespect the history of the program like this really gets my gruff up. Part of me say that OSU should just tell all five of them to go pro because there is no place for them next year. To sell the Gold Pants and the Rose Bowl ring is just scareligious!:osu:
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This really has zero to do with it for me. It has more to do with being selfish and putting yourself above 80 others in the name of looking good. And by looking good, I mean covered in tats.

I can't say that for all involved but at least 4 of them...
 
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I know that most people seem to be in the "suspend them for the bowl" camp, a position with which I agree in general. However, based on the NCAA ruling, I firmly believe that OSU should not suspend them for the bowl in addition to the five games next year.

To me, part of what makes determining the timing of the suspensions so awkward is that the violations presumably occurred prior to the 2009 season, not immediately preceding the upcoming game. Typically, a suspension is imposed immediately following the act. Here, though, the transgressions didn't come to light until two seasons later. Had these sales been discovered a month later, we wouldn't be having this debate. Heck, perhaps OSU could have even slowed down their investigation and released their findings in mid-January and there would be no issue (though I give them credit for not doing so).

The fact that they were discovered now is actually much more detrimental to OSU than had they immediately come to light. The five games would have been imposed at the beginning of last season - those games being Navy, USC, Toledo, Illinois and Indiana. We went 4-1 in those games, and the results likely would have been the same even without those players (maybe not Navy).

Anyway, just one reason why I don't feel the need for immediacy in these suspensions, despite the fact that I do still believe immediate suspension is the logical path.
 
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stkoran;1840608; said:
I know that most people seem to be in the "suspend them for the bowl" camp, a position with which I agree in general. However, based on the NCAA ruling, I firmly believe that OSU should not suspend them for the bowl in addition to the five games next year.
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I don't believe they should be suspended for the bowl game in addition to the 5 next year, but i believe that the first game of their suspensions should have been the sugar bowl...
 
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Would something like this happen if Ohio State ran a dirty program?

Seriously.

Would Terrelle Pryor, DeVier Posey, Dan Herron, and others have to go as far as selling trophies like Big Ten Championship rings and gold pants if all they really had to do for fast money was hold out their hands in front of a booster. I mean, we're talking about Terrelle Pryor. If Ohio State had a dirty program, the first player taken care of would be Terrelle Pryor wouldn't it? Well, obviously, he wasn't being taken care of because he had to sell his trophies to get a little money.

Ohio State has a clean program. This recent embarrassment proves it. Proves it to me anyway.:biggrin:

Go Buckeyes!!!!!
 
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strohs;1840549; said:
I think the team would really rally behind Bauserman (or whoever the QB starter would be, Pryor is really the only loss the team would suffer...)
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I wish I could agree. But this offense without Pryor is similar to a car without an engine. Add Boom and Posey to the mix and I think we struggle mightily on offense and put way too much pressure on our defense to win the game.

Without Pryor, we lose convincingly imo. That being said, I don't think he/they should play in the bowl game.. tough pill to swallow.
 
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billmac91;1840583; said:
Is Tressel's moral judgment even being taken into consideration though?

And I'm not sure how I am making up moral rules...trading memorabilia and autographs for tats is embarrassing and should be punished ASAP. Not on the payment schedule of the BCS and NCAA.

Ohio State has the opportunity to take the high ground.
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No, Ohio State is ALREADY TAKING the high ground, as it always has under Gene Smith and Andy Geiger. What it has the opportunity to do here is do something that you prefer.
 
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WolverineMike;1840692; said:
just wondering. if my kid got suspended like this for giving me money and the public perception was like "yeah right," I'd do every thing in my power to get out there and let people know he was telling the truth.
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Yes....and has been discussed ad nauseum in this th
read.....poseys mom was in a dispatch article
 
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D33RHUNT3R;1840304; said:
But, personally I would rather WIN or Lose with Dignity and Honor ..... But thats how folks are around here ,somethings are worth more than winning..
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:slappy: That is the biggest crock of shit I have ever read anywhere, internet, books, magazines, ANYWHERE

Dipshit, you belong to a conference that is by far the most cheating, win at any costs organization in sports. I suggest you STFU.
 
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billmac91;1840551; said:
C'mon mang...Ohio State should suspend them for the Sugar Bowl because it is the right thing to do. Period.

Just because the NCAA is a joke doesn't mean Ohio State has to be as weak as them. Ohio State should do THE RIGHT THING.

Suspend them.

They won't but they should.
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strohs;1840560; said:
+1000
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Why would suspending them for the Sugar Bowl be "the right thing to do"? I mean, you added "Period" to close off all discussion on the matter, but you conveniently forgot to support your argument in the first place. So, have at it....

BrutusBuckeyeAZ;1840595; said:
To sell the Gold Pants and the Rose Bowl ring is just scareligious!:osu:
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No, Ted Haggard is scareligious....
 
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