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Cincinnati Bengals (Just Burrow In)

Question: Holding called while play continues. Kupp catches the ball in the endzone and Apple blasts him. Gets a flag (and yeah, a flag for the same thing that Donald did to Burrow in the first half that went uncalled). 1st foul is in play, 2nd foul is a dead ball foul. So, in my days as a high school ref - you mark off the holding call first, then you mark off the dead-ball foul. Down remains the same. They called offsetting penalties. That should apply only if both calls were dead-ball, or both were committed while the ball was live, or is this another difference between NFL and high school/college rules?
Don't know, never been an NFL ref.
 
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That call on Wilson was a BS call..only thing I’m upset About..it’s 4th down at the 8 yard line they don’t call that….everything else congrats to rams..20 points with that oline in the super bowl is commendable..Donald is really that dude..who dey..OL draft no questions..also a true 2nd CB..not apple best performance..
 
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Question: Holding called while play continues. Kupp catches the ball in the endzone and Apple blasts him. Gets a flag (and yeah, a flag for the same thing that Donald did to Burrow in the first half that went uncalled). 1st foul is in play, 2nd foul is a dead ball foul. So, in my days as a high school ref - you mark off the holding call first, then you mark off the dead-ball foul. Down remains the same. They called offsetting penalties. That should apply only if both calls were dead-ball, or both were committed while the ball was live, or is this another difference between NFL and high school/college rules?
Yeah I was confused by that I was always taught only 2 post play fouls or two in play fouls offset otherwise you mark both. Which wouldn't have moved the ball might have gained them 5 yards but the down would have been 2nd
 
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In particular, #79 (Havenstein) ran backwards two full yards before the ball was snapped.
He's the same guy that tackled a DL on the 3rd down run earlier in the drive. Should have set up a 3rd and long, not the 4th and 1 that Kupp picked up. Not saying they wouldn't have gotten the 1st down anyway, but it was a pretty blatant missed call early in the drive.
 
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What I liked:

1. Underdog hometown team taking it to an LA superteam with bought and paid for mercenaries. Something about LA superteams that rub me the wrong way.
2. Jamarr Chase's hands. First 3 catches, all incredible.
3. Joe Burrow
4. Logan Wilson - you deserved better than that. Played a hell of a game.
5. Tee Higgins. Maybe Ramsey gets the call if he doesn't go flying 30 yards on that TD catch. What Tee did does not result in what you did. And Ramsey blatantly held Tee on a TD incomplete pass earlier in the game.
6. Joe Mixon. Nice first NFL pass.
7. McPherson

What I didn't like:

1. 3rd and 1 runs to Perrine. How many times does the same play have to fail? In this game alone, twice.
2. Hargraves running onto the field to celebrate in street clothes. Cut him.
3. The holding call on Wilson. After the non-call of false start on the same play.
4. The personal foul on Von Bell the very next play. Didn't see a replay, so maybe I missed seeing whatever the fuck was wrong with that play.
5. Perrine not diving for the ball on that last play. Dive for the ball asshole. Even if you can't catch it.
6. Our offensive line 2nd half.
7. Our punter. Some poor punts tonight.
8. Zac Taylor having Perrine in the game at the end for the last 2 plays. Come on man.
9. Boyd dropping his 1st pass of the entire season on what would have likely converted on 3rd and long. It was crucial.
 
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Rams defensive front and blitzing/DLine games (stunts/twists) went up to another level after they got down 7. They took over.

I thought Joe Burrow was going to do something special once they got to midfield. Bengals had a chance with over a minute, 2 timeouts and eventually a 3rd and 1.
 
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The officials will never
What I liked:

1. Underdog hometown team taking it to an LA superteam with bought and paid for mercenaries. Something about LA superteams that rub me the wrong way.
2. Jamarr Chase's hands. First 3 catches, all incredible.
3. Joe Burrow
4. Logan Wilson - you deserved better than that. Played a hell of a game.
5. Tee Higgins. Maybe Ramsey gets the call if he doesn't go flying 30 yards on that TD catch. What Tee did does not result in what you did. And Ramsey blatantly held Tee on a TD incomplete pass earlier in the game.
6. Joe Mixon. Nice first NFL pass.
7. McPherson

What I didn't like:

1. 3rd and 1 runs to Perrine. How many times does the same play have to fail? In this game alone, twice.
2. Hargraves running onto the field to celebrate in street clothes. Cut him.
3. The holding call on Wilson. After the non-call of false start on the same play.
4. The personal foul on Von Bell the very next play. Didn't see a replay, so maybe I missed seeing whatever the fuck was wrong with that play.
5. Perrine not diving for the ball on that last play. Dive for the ball asshole. Even if you can't catch it.
6. Our offensive line 2nd half.
7. Our punter. Some poor punts tonight.
8. Zac Taylor having Perrine in the game at the end for the last 2 plays. Come on man.
9. Boyd dropping his 1st pass of the entire season on what would have likely converted on 3rd and long. It was crucial.

Good post.

The decision to draft Chase over offensive line got them to the Super Bowl. One olineman wouldn’t have been the difference tonight. They can address that in the off-season. Should be a good few years in Cinci.

Alright, back to Browns fandom.
 
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Does anyone know the rule? How was Bell's hit a personal foul? Head up, no crown, led with his hands.

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