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Weel, if you had layed off the pot, maybe you wouldn't have been a long time student...
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Weel, if you had layed off the pot, maybe you wouldn't have been a long time student...
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"Tommy: A lot of people go to college for seven years.
Richard: Yeah, they're called doctors."[/QUOTE]
Well I happen to be majoring in Biology/Pre-med. And I can tell you there aren't too many doctors that only went to school for seven years. You have four years of undergrad, four years of med school, and four years of residency. The only people who spend seven years in school are either too stupid to get the rest of the way through med school or decided to spend a shit load of money to go to classes just to say they were in college for seven years.
Richard: Yeah, they're called doctors."[/QUOTE]
Well I happen to be majoring in Biology/Pre-med. And I can tell you there aren't too many doctors that only went to school for seven years. You have four years of undergrad, four years of med school, and four years of residency. The only people who spend seven years in school are either too stupid to get the rest of the way through med school or decided to spend a shit load of money to go to classes just to say they were in college for seven years.
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Effects on the Brain
Scientists have learned a great deal about how THC acts in the brain to produce its many effects. When someone smokes marijuana, THC rapidly passes from the lungs into the bloodstream, which carries the chemical to organs throughout the body, including the brain.
In the brain, THC connects to specific sites called cannabinoid receptors on nerve cells and influences the activity of those cells. Some brain areas have many cannabinoid receptors; others have few or none. Many cannabinoid receptors are found in the parts of the brain that influence pleasure, memory, thought, concentration, sensory and time perception, and coordinated movement(5).
The short-term effects of marijuana can include problems with memory and learning; distorted perception; difficulty in thinking and problem solving; loss of coordination; and increased heart rate. Research findings for long-term marijuana use indicate some changes in the brain similar to those seen after long-term use of other major drugs of abuse. For example, cannabinoid (THC or synthetic forms of THC) withdrawal in chronically exposed animals leads to an increase in the activation of the stress-response system(6) and changes in the activity of nerve cells containing dopamine(7). Dopamine neurons are involved in the regulation of motivation and reward, and are directly or indirectly affected by all drugs of abuse.
Effects on the Heart
One study has indicated that a user’s risk of heart attack more than quadruples in the first hour after smoking marijuana(8). The researchers suggest that such an effect might occur from marijuana’s effects on blood pressure and heart rate and reduced oxygen-carrying capacity of blood.
Effects on the Lungs
A study of 450 individuals found that people who smoke marijuana frequently but do not smoke tobacco have more health problems and miss more days of work than nonsmokers(9). Many of the extra sick days among the marijuana smokers in the study were for respiratory illnesses.
Even infrequent use can cause burning and stinging of the mouth and throat, often accompanied by a heavy cough. Someone who smokes marijuana regularly may have many of the same respiratory problems that tobacco smokers do, such as daily cough and phlegm production, more frequent acute chest illness, a heightened risk of lung infections, and a greater tendency to obstructed airways(10). Smoking marijuana increases the likelihood of developing cancer of the head or neck, and the more marijuana smoked the greater the increase(11). A study comparing 173 cancer patients and 176 healthy individuals produced strong evidence that marijuana smoking doubled or tripled the risk of these cancers.
Marijuana use also has the potential to promote cancer of the lungs and other parts of the respiratory tract because it contains irritants and carcinogens(12, 13). In fact, marijuana smoke contains 50 to 70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than does tobacco smoke(14). It also produces high levels of an enzyme that converts certain hydrocarbons into their carcinogenic form—levels that may accelerate the changes that ultimately produce malignant cells(15). Marijuana users usually inhale more deeply and hold their breath longer than tobacco smokers do, which increases the lungs’ exposure to carcinogenic smoke. These facts suggest that, puff for puff, smoking marijuana may increase the risk of cancer more than smoking tobacco.
Other Health Effects
Some of marijuana’s adverse health effects may occur because THC impairs the immune system’s ability to fight off infectious diseases and cancer. In laboratory experiments that exposed animal and human cells to THC or other marijuana ingredients, the normal disease-preventing reactions of many of the key types of immune cells were inhibited(16). In other studies, mice exposed to THC or related substances were more likely than unexposed mice to develop bacterial infections and tumors(17, 18).
Effects of Heavy Marijuana Use on Learning and Social Behavior
Depression(19), anxiety(20), and personality disturbances(21) have been associated with marijuana use. Research clearly demonstrates that marijuana has potential to cause problems in daily life or make a person’s existing problems worse. Because marijuana compromises the ability to learn and remember information, the more a person uses marijuana the more he or she is likely to fall behind in accumulating intellectual, job, or social skills. Moreover, research has shown that marijuana’s adverse impact on memory and learning can last for days or weeks after the acute effects of the drug wear off(22, 23).
Students who smoke marijuana get lower grades and are less likely to graduate from high school, compared with their non-smoking peers(24, 25, 26, 27). A study of 129 college students found that, for heavy users of marijuana (those who smoked the drug at least 27 of the preceding 30 days), critical skills related to attention, memory, and learning were significantly impaired even after they had not used the drug for at least 24 hours(28). The heavy marijuana users in the study had more trouble sustaining and shifting their attention and in registering, organizing, and using information than did the study participants who had used marijuana no more than 3 of the previous 30 days. As a result, someone who smokes marijuana every day may be functioning at a reduced intellectual level all of the time.
More recently, the same researchers showed that the ability of a group of long-term heavy marijuana users to recall words from a list remained impaired for a week after quitting, but returned to normal within 4 weeks(29). Thus, it is possible that some cognitive abilities may be restored in individuals who quit smoking marijuana, even after long-term heavy use.
Workers who smoke marijuana are more likely than their coworkers to have problems on the job. Several studies associate workers’ marijuana smoking with increased absences, tardiness, accidents, workers’ compensation claims, and job turnover. A study of municipal workers found that those who used marijuana on or off the job reported more “withdrawal behaviors”—such as leaving work without permission, daydreaming, spending work time on personal matters, and shirking tasks—that adversely affect productivity and morale(30). In another study, marijuana users reported that use of the drug impaired several important measures of life achievement including cognitive abilities, career status, social life, and physical and mental health(31).
Effects on Pregnancy
Research has shown that babies born to women who used marijuana during their pregnancies display altered responses to visual stimuli, increased tremulousness, and a high-pitched cry, which may indicate neurological problems in development(32). During infancy and preschool years, marijuana-exposed children have been observed to have more behavioral problems than unexposed children and poorer performance on tasks of visual perception, language comprehension, sustained attention, and memory(33, 34). In school, these children are more likely to exhibit deficits in decision-making skills, memory, and the ability to remain attentive(35, 36, 37).
Addictive Potential
Long-term marijuana use can lead to addiction for some people; that is, they use the drug compulsively even though it interferes with family, school, work, and recreational activities. Drug craving and withdrawal symptoms can make it hard for long-term marijuana smokers to stop using the drug. People trying to quit report irritability, sleeplessness, and anxiety(38). They also display increased aggression on psychological tests, peaking approximately one week after the last use of the drug(39).
Thats it? Hardly worth worrying about.
BRILLIANT!
Scientists have learned a great deal about how THC acts in the brain to produce its many effects. When someone smokes marijuana, THC rapidly passes from the lungs into the bloodstream, which carries the chemical to organs throughout the body, including the brain.
In the brain, THC connects to specific sites called cannabinoid receptors on nerve cells and influences the activity of those cells. Some brain areas have many cannabinoid receptors; others have few or none. Many cannabinoid receptors are found in the parts of the brain that influence pleasure, memory, thought, concentration, sensory and time perception, and coordinated movement(5).
The short-term effects of marijuana can include problems with memory and learning; distorted perception; difficulty in thinking and problem solving; loss of coordination; and increased heart rate. Research findings for long-term marijuana use indicate some changes in the brain similar to those seen after long-term use of other major drugs of abuse. For example, cannabinoid (THC or synthetic forms of THC) withdrawal in chronically exposed animals leads to an increase in the activation of the stress-response system(6) and changes in the activity of nerve cells containing dopamine(7). Dopamine neurons are involved in the regulation of motivation and reward, and are directly or indirectly affected by all drugs of abuse.
Effects on the Heart
One study has indicated that a user’s risk of heart attack more than quadruples in the first hour after smoking marijuana(8). The researchers suggest that such an effect might occur from marijuana’s effects on blood pressure and heart rate and reduced oxygen-carrying capacity of blood.
Effects on the Lungs
A study of 450 individuals found that people who smoke marijuana frequently but do not smoke tobacco have more health problems and miss more days of work than nonsmokers(9). Many of the extra sick days among the marijuana smokers in the study were for respiratory illnesses.
Even infrequent use can cause burning and stinging of the mouth and throat, often accompanied by a heavy cough. Someone who smokes marijuana regularly may have many of the same respiratory problems that tobacco smokers do, such as daily cough and phlegm production, more frequent acute chest illness, a heightened risk of lung infections, and a greater tendency to obstructed airways(10). Smoking marijuana increases the likelihood of developing cancer of the head or neck, and the more marijuana smoked the greater the increase(11). A study comparing 173 cancer patients and 176 healthy individuals produced strong evidence that marijuana smoking doubled or tripled the risk of these cancers.
Marijuana use also has the potential to promote cancer of the lungs and other parts of the respiratory tract because it contains irritants and carcinogens(12, 13). In fact, marijuana smoke contains 50 to 70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than does tobacco smoke(14). It also produces high levels of an enzyme that converts certain hydrocarbons into their carcinogenic form—levels that may accelerate the changes that ultimately produce malignant cells(15). Marijuana users usually inhale more deeply and hold their breath longer than tobacco smokers do, which increases the lungs’ exposure to carcinogenic smoke. These facts suggest that, puff for puff, smoking marijuana may increase the risk of cancer more than smoking tobacco.
Other Health Effects
Some of marijuana’s adverse health effects may occur because THC impairs the immune system’s ability to fight off infectious diseases and cancer. In laboratory experiments that exposed animal and human cells to THC or other marijuana ingredients, the normal disease-preventing reactions of many of the key types of immune cells were inhibited(16). In other studies, mice exposed to THC or related substances were more likely than unexposed mice to develop bacterial infections and tumors(17, 18).
Effects of Heavy Marijuana Use on Learning and Social Behavior
Depression(19), anxiety(20), and personality disturbances(21) have been associated with marijuana use. Research clearly demonstrates that marijuana has potential to cause problems in daily life or make a person’s existing problems worse. Because marijuana compromises the ability to learn and remember information, the more a person uses marijuana the more he or she is likely to fall behind in accumulating intellectual, job, or social skills. Moreover, research has shown that marijuana’s adverse impact on memory and learning can last for days or weeks after the acute effects of the drug wear off(22, 23).
Students who smoke marijuana get lower grades and are less likely to graduate from high school, compared with their non-smoking peers(24, 25, 26, 27). A study of 129 college students found that, for heavy users of marijuana (those who smoked the drug at least 27 of the preceding 30 days), critical skills related to attention, memory, and learning were significantly impaired even after they had not used the drug for at least 24 hours(28). The heavy marijuana users in the study had more trouble sustaining and shifting their attention and in registering, organizing, and using information than did the study participants who had used marijuana no more than 3 of the previous 30 days. As a result, someone who smokes marijuana every day may be functioning at a reduced intellectual level all of the time.
More recently, the same researchers showed that the ability of a group of long-term heavy marijuana users to recall words from a list remained impaired for a week after quitting, but returned to normal within 4 weeks(29). Thus, it is possible that some cognitive abilities may be restored in individuals who quit smoking marijuana, even after long-term heavy use.
Workers who smoke marijuana are more likely than their coworkers to have problems on the job. Several studies associate workers’ marijuana smoking with increased absences, tardiness, accidents, workers’ compensation claims, and job turnover. A study of municipal workers found that those who used marijuana on or off the job reported more “withdrawal behaviors”—such as leaving work without permission, daydreaming, spending work time on personal matters, and shirking tasks—that adversely affect productivity and morale(30). In another study, marijuana users reported that use of the drug impaired several important measures of life achievement including cognitive abilities, career status, social life, and physical and mental health(31).
Effects on Pregnancy
Research has shown that babies born to women who used marijuana during their pregnancies display altered responses to visual stimuli, increased tremulousness, and a high-pitched cry, which may indicate neurological problems in development(32). During infancy and preschool years, marijuana-exposed children have been observed to have more behavioral problems than unexposed children and poorer performance on tasks of visual perception, language comprehension, sustained attention, and memory(33, 34). In school, these children are more likely to exhibit deficits in decision-making skills, memory, and the ability to remain attentive(35, 36, 37).
Addictive Potential
Long-term marijuana use can lead to addiction for some people; that is, they use the drug compulsively even though it interferes with family, school, work, and recreational activities. Drug craving and withdrawal symptoms can make it hard for long-term marijuana smokers to stop using the drug. People trying to quit report irritability, sleeplessness, and anxiety(38). They also display increased aggression on psychological tests, peaking approximately one week after the last use of the drug(39).
Thats it? Hardly worth worrying about.
Sooooo.... if it is legalized all but 1.7% of Americans will quit using it? Thats only around 5,027,480 people.Steve19 said:
BRILLIANT!
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martinss01
blissfully stupid
gost8, you square!!!!
its all about priorities. if drugs are a part of your life your priorities are not in order and likely unhealthy.
your right, there most certainly is a whole list of completely made up positives to smoking pot. not only is there said list, but each item listed is vastly more important than that of a child.
its all about priorities. if drugs are a part of your life your priorities are not in order and likely unhealthy.
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slickman
keeping tan
The Dam
I haven't read through this whole thread yet, but I will, and I'll amend or add as needed, but I have lived in Europe and visited Amsterdam and the Netherlands a few times and coincidentally cannabis is legal to smoke in the coffee shops there and isn't it funny that we live in a free country yet other countries have "more" freedom than us and less crime, particularly violent crime.
Pretty amazing.
There are 3 reasons I don't live in europe myself because I do love it there. 1. Family. 2. American Football. 3. The weather in Florida is awesome, save the literal Hurricanes that ravaged us last year for the first time in this area in 75 years.
Alcohol and alcoholism and the ill effects that are a direct result of over-intake of alcohol are far more severe and astonishing than any direct effects resulting from the consumption of cannabis. Any belief otherwise I challenge them to smoke cannabis for 3 hours versus drink for 3 hours and go ahead and admit which results in worse behavior or worse driving.
American politics are directly impacted by PACS, or lobbyists. Since DuPont made hemp illegal way back in the 20s or whenever there is no longer any financial support for cannabis in America. Over time though it has become a commonly accepted faux pas. In my family for instance we have parties where not infrequently marijuana is a common component. It is looked upon as nothing more than an appetizer of some sort. People can say whatever about whomever they know as underachievers and blame cannabis but I can tell you that every young millionaire I know and am related to not only doesn't give a shit, but smokes it whenever they can. I am not a user because it's just no longer who I am. I'm too intense. But to say this "drug" is any worse for someone than a prescrpition pain-killer is off their rocker.
Actually, people addicted to popping valium or vicoden or whatever are much worse off than cannabis users.
**As a sidenote, my brother and I have called it Frotuss as a code word for the past decade just so we could laugh about it in front of other people... "Hey grandma... Frotuss! "What?" "Oh, nevermind.""
frotuss.com
Once upon a time, in 1776, Thomas Jefferson signed his name
on a piece of marijuana
and this document was a symbol of freedom and of liberty
at least for the rich white gentry
and time marched along
this plant that I refer to has been used for everything
from medicine to the american flag
now it seems to be somewhere along the way of how things got messed up
yeah, messed up
for marijuana
gift of god to my brothers and me
marijuana
government wants to test me when i pee
well some say a conspiracy
A the petrochemical, and pulp-paper industries combined
to kill the competition
government hysteria, monopoly, and conflicts of interest with total impunity
so if you don't buy the conspiracy, just look at the reality that your tax dollars go
to spray poison on the fields of a farmer in south america
and as an added bonus, your neighbor might be proud recipients of that poison weed
marijuana
government comes to test me when i pee
marijuana
gift of god to my brothers and me
marijuana
you can't legislate your own morality
marijuana
government comes to test me when i pee
reefer madness
chronic sadness
what is the half life of bad propaganda
policies fail
denied bail
you made him a demon
now pay for his trip to prison
hard to promote the status quo
but what is the shelf life
of bad legislation?
the hypocrite smirks at some moral disgrace
as he reads from the law that was written
about the same time
that he had
his last original thought
the man said he was dieing
the nausea and the pain left him wasting away
and unable to keep a meal down
so he tried everything
prescription could obtain but to no avail
the side effects were worse then the pain
so now he breaks law
to use the one thing that seems to help him out
the people say, "oh he's just gettin' high"
but not to change the subject, but didn't you ever wonder why gettin' high's a crime?
yeah a crime
marijuana
gift of god to my brothers and me
marijuana
government wants to test me when i pee
marijuana
government wants to test me when i pee
marijuana
government wants to test me when i pee
marijuana
government wants to test me when i pee
I haven't read through this whole thread yet, but I will, and I'll amend or add as needed, but I have lived in Europe and visited Amsterdam and the Netherlands a few times and coincidentally cannabis is legal to smoke in the coffee shops there and isn't it funny that we live in a free country yet other countries have "more" freedom than us and less crime, particularly violent crime.
Pretty amazing.
There are 3 reasons I don't live in europe myself because I do love it there. 1. Family. 2. American Football. 3. The weather in Florida is awesome, save the literal Hurricanes that ravaged us last year for the first time in this area in 75 years.
Alcohol and alcoholism and the ill effects that are a direct result of over-intake of alcohol are far more severe and astonishing than any direct effects resulting from the consumption of cannabis. Any belief otherwise I challenge them to smoke cannabis for 3 hours versus drink for 3 hours and go ahead and admit which results in worse behavior or worse driving.
American politics are directly impacted by PACS, or lobbyists. Since DuPont made hemp illegal way back in the 20s or whenever there is no longer any financial support for cannabis in America. Over time though it has become a commonly accepted faux pas. In my family for instance we have parties where not infrequently marijuana is a common component. It is looked upon as nothing more than an appetizer of some sort. People can say whatever about whomever they know as underachievers and blame cannabis but I can tell you that every young millionaire I know and am related to not only doesn't give a shit, but smokes it whenever they can. I am not a user because it's just no longer who I am. I'm too intense. But to say this "drug" is any worse for someone than a prescrpition pain-killer is off their rocker.
Actually, people addicted to popping valium or vicoden or whatever are much worse off than cannabis users.
**As a sidenote, my brother and I have called it Frotuss as a code word for the past decade just so we could laugh about it in front of other people... "Hey grandma... Frotuss! "What?" "Oh, nevermind.""
frotuss.com
Once upon a time, in 1776, Thomas Jefferson signed his name
on a piece of marijuana
and this document was a symbol of freedom and of liberty
at least for the rich white gentry
and time marched along
this plant that I refer to has been used for everything
from medicine to the american flag
now it seems to be somewhere along the way of how things got messed up
yeah, messed up
for marijuana
gift of god to my brothers and me
marijuana
government wants to test me when i pee
well some say a conspiracy
A the petrochemical, and pulp-paper industries combined
to kill the competition
government hysteria, monopoly, and conflicts of interest with total impunity
so if you don't buy the conspiracy, just look at the reality that your tax dollars go
to spray poison on the fields of a farmer in south america
and as an added bonus, your neighbor might be proud recipients of that poison weed
marijuana
government comes to test me when i pee
marijuana
gift of god to my brothers and me
marijuana
you can't legislate your own morality
marijuana
government comes to test me when i pee
reefer madness
chronic sadness
what is the half life of bad propaganda
policies fail
denied bail
you made him a demon
now pay for his trip to prison
hard to promote the status quo
but what is the shelf life
of bad legislation?
the hypocrite smirks at some moral disgrace
as he reads from the law that was written
about the same time
that he had
his last original thought
the man said he was dieing
the nausea and the pain left him wasting away
and unable to keep a meal down
so he tried everything
prescription could obtain but to no avail
the side effects were worse then the pain
so now he breaks law
to use the one thing that seems to help him out
the people say, "oh he's just gettin' high"
but not to change the subject, but didn't you ever wonder why gettin' high's a crime?
yeah a crime
marijuana
gift of god to my brothers and me
marijuana
government wants to test me when i pee
marijuana
government wants to test me when i pee
marijuana
government wants to test me when i pee
marijuana
government wants to test me when i pee
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KevinBuck
Gave up the ghost
A few things here:ohiostate=life said:
1) Claiming expertise based on your college major is pretty meaningless when you've already admitted you are a freshman!
2) There is a 3rd option for people who have been in school for 7 years: ever heard of a Master's? How about a PhD? That's a different kind of doctorb...
3) That quote's from a movie! It's called an allusion...
Thanks for verifying my reference to DuPont, Slickman
It should be noted that not everyone who takes a sick day off of work, is actually sick; there's another dynamic in play here...gost8 said:
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KevinBuck
Gave up the ghost
Quote:
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3yards, every forum in every discussion board on the internet has longtimers or mods who complain about thread-splitting or off-topic posts, and I've pretty much learned to tune them out: as soon as I could tell yours was one of those, and didn't address me specifically, I skipped it. You want to give me a message, you use my name. I didn't start the weed discussion, and I wasn't the only one talking non-Skeete, so your threats are out of line. And this issue has long since passed anyway, so just get over it.
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I should also point out that BN27 is exactly the type of poster I reference above: huge post count, lots of in-jokes with the other veterans, but only criticizes, never actually says anything of substance. This has been an engaging discussion, but not very interesting thanks to the many closed-minded responses I've received. Thanks, though, to any opponents who have helped refine my argument; that's what discussion is all about...
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=alt2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px inset; BORDER-TOP: 1px inset; BORDER-LEFT: 1px inset; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px inset">Originally Posted by KevinBuck
3yards, every forum in every discussion board on the internet has longtimers or mods who complain about thread-splitting or off-topic posts, and I've pretty much learned to tune them out: as soon as I could tell yours was one of those, and didn't address me specifically, I skipped it. You want to give me a message, you use my name. I didn't start the weed discussion, and I wasn't the only one talking non-Skeete, so your threats are out of line. And this issue has long since passed anyway, so just get over it.
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
I should also point out that BN27 is exactly the type of poster I reference above: huge post count, lots of in-jokes with the other veterans, but only criticizes, never actually says anything of substance. This has been an engaging discussion, but not very interesting thanks to the many closed-minded responses I've received. Thanks, though, to any opponents who have helped refine my argument; that's what discussion is all about...
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sorry.....id talk more about weed and being a pot head if i was actually a dead beat loser who did drugs. gotta run.....time to go talk football on my pot smoking forum though.
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ohiobuck94
Buckeye Beach Bum
Pot is not a normal part of college life. Some students tend to normalize it to make it seem acceptable and a way to fit in. Most students don't smoke pot.
Sorry.
Sorry.
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ohiobuck94 said:Pot is not a normal part of college life. Some students tend to normalize it to make it seem acceptable and a way to fit in. Most students don't smoke pot.
Sorry.
When numerous surveys show that over half the student populus tokes at least once a year, on campus, I'd say that pretty much qualifies it as a normal part of college life...
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