Game Thread Wisconsin 13, tOSU 31 (Oct 10, 3:30 ET, ABC/ESPN)

[osugrad21]

There lies the problem. We owe this kid. He picked OSU because he thought he was going to get coached up. Coach Daniels has the chops to do that. He did a magnificent job with Troy. I understand his health issues and he deserves his new position. But we have to remember TP is a second year starter now and we all need to look and see where players with only a small portion of his physical talents are, or were, when they were sophmores with 14 or 15 games under their belt.

I don't know Coach Sicilano and I don't know any of the qb's he has coached. Hopefully, there is no correlation there. I don't mean to disparage him at all and he may be a wonderful coach and great guy.

BUT....this is The Ohio State University. Half the great offenses in the country are coached by guys from Ohio. You would think that one of their QB coaches might want the tutelage from Coach Tressel and the opportunity to build a QB out of TP. I would think there are some great offensive guys out there who would pay the school to take that job. We owe it to TP and all our QB recruits..... :osu:

Let me give you a hint...

Every QB in America is taught to J-roll on the rollout..get depth...not run straight down the line and screw up every bit of timing in the play.

Every QB in America is taught to attack downhill on the speed option...not stretch the field the way the defense is hoping so one man can play 2 and allow pursuit to shrink the field.

Every QB is America is taught that the zone read is most dangerous when you actually read it and then attack downhill using the designed blocking angles instead of trying to again stretch the field laterally.

Right now, Terrelle Pryor is not applying what he is learning. He has not found that balance between being the best athlete on the field...and being the game manager a QB needs to be.

Its not the coaching because you see each of the above issues being fixed slowly...when applied correctly, you see success. When they are not, you see a frustrating situation that puts the rest of the offense in a hole and kills rhythm.

 

[buckiprof]

Let me give you a hint...

Every QB in America is taught to J-roll on the rollout..get depth...not run straight down the line and screw up every bit of timing in the play.

Every QB in America is taught to attack downhill on the speed option...not stretch the field the way the defense is hoping so one man can play 2 and allow pursuit to shrink the field.

Every QB is America is taught that the zone read is most dangerous when you actually read it and then attack downhill using the designed blocking angles instead of trying to again stretch the field laterally.

Right now, Terrelle Pryor is not applying what he is learning. He has not found that balance between being the best athlete on the field...and being the game manager a QB needs to be.

Its not the coaching because you see each of the above issues being fixed slowly...when applied correctly, you see success. When they are not, you see a frustrating situation that puts the rest of the offense in a hole and kills rhythm.

Several things that TP does have to continue to learn, but probably the most difficult one for him to learn is that he didn't have to learn those things while a high school QB. When one has such an athletic advantage at the high school level, really learning the items you highlight are not necessary. Now they are necessary hence the growing pains.

 

[leroyjenkins]

Furthermore, you can look around; Reisling, Tebow, McCoy, Bradford, Daniel, etc..... they were all further along as sophomores with less talent at this point in their college career.

You have to admit though, Reisling has aged like a fine wine.

 

[Onebuckfan]

TP had a lot to learn when he came here. The situation last year was not conducive for learning. If he had played all year behind a starter like Tebow did he'd be further along. Last yrs senior dominated team had big goals and grooming TP was not one of him hence some grumbling among the Srs last year. Now this year he has an inexperienced line receivers and backs..yet he is supposed to be John Elway. Every area of the offense has had execution issues ..route running missed blocking assignments..not just TP..JT taking the ball at the start of this game gives me some confidence the O is making strides in practice. Let the next 3 weeks play out and by Nov. we may be all right on Offense. Similar to TS game against scUM his sophmore year. Patience and a great D is what we need now! Go Bucks

 

[robbothehut]

You have to admit though, Reisling has aged like a fine wine.

I'll drink to that.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Thad should have just gotten a big handful of back fat and given Oglesby the titty twister of his life.

 

[BUCKYLE]

You need to re-read my post before pulling out your beard...I guess more vulgarity would have made it more readable.....I wasn't ragging on TP or anyone else. I was stating that I don't think he is getting the sort of help he was promised or is entitled to. Furthermore, you can look around; Reisling, Tebow, McCoy, Bradford, Daniel, etc..... they were all further along as sophomores with less talent at this point in their college career. I wouldn't trade TP for any of those guys. My point was that we may not have adjusted to Coach Daniel's health issues as well as we should have. A good QB coach can help a kid adjust to the speed of the game.

I have no complaints about TP at all and I'm glad we have him. I know he's working hard and I only want the best for him as well as every other guy on the team and athlete at the school.

You think that was vulgar? I could make a whore blush.

My point was that you blamed coaching, when in fact you don't know jack shit about what he's being taught. My point was that when the game slows down for Terrelle, like it does for all QB's sooner or later, the coaching will come thru.

 

[cbrian815]

Let me give you a hint...

Every QB in America is taught to J-roll on the rollout..get depth...not run straight down the line and screw up every bit of timing in the play.

Every QB in America is taught to attack downhill on the speed option...not stretch the field the way the defense is hoping so one man can play 2 and allow pursuit to shrink the field.

Every QB is America is taught that the zone read is most dangerous when you actually read it and then attack downhill using the designed blocking angles instead of trying to again stretch the field laterally.

Right now, Terrelle Pryor is not applying what he is learning. He has not found that balance between being the best athlete on the field...and being the game manager a QB needs to be.

Its not the coaching because you see each of the above issues being fixed slowly...when applied correctly, you see success. When they are not, you see a frustrating situation that puts the rest of the offense in a hole and kills rhythm.

I also think that we have changed from working mainly out of the I formation into a more spread one back offense the last 3 weeks. I think this is the way to go but we need TP to execute it well. I think when he does we will see a big difference, especially opening up some big passing plays when he keeps it as a run throw option. Go Bucks

 

[NateG]

I also think that we have changed from working mainly out of the I formation into a more spread one back offense the last 3 weeks. I think this is the way to go but we need TP to execute it well. I think when he does we will see a big difference, especially opening up some big passing plays when he keeps it as a run throw option. Go Bucks

The switch did happen and it's now collectively in learning week 4 with a one game setback from a monsoon and a one game setback from the flu. But hey the way it's getting talked about it can't get any worse HUH!!!!???!!!!

 

[billmac91]

if TP is going to lock on his primary target every time he throws it, I wish they would incorportate that into the gameplan. How about Terrelle start the play by looking off his main target and coming back to him a split second after he has the ball..

Sounds way too simplified...but dude is honestly staring his receiver down with laser eyes every time he has a called pass play. I'm not going to blame that on him or development...I just wish if he continues to do this, the coaching staff would make an adjustment to allow him to be more successful. All it takes is the very first play of the Wisconsin game to see Terrelle doesn't check down...he forced it between 3 Wisconsin defenders when he had Saine in the flat for an easy 15 yards.....

 

[BB73]

if TP is going to lock on his primary target every time he throws it, I wish they would incorportate that into the gameplan. How about Terrelle start the play by looking off his main target and coming back to him a split second after he has the ball..

Sounds way too simplified...but dude is honestly staring his receiver down with laser eyes every time he has a called pass play. I'm not going to blame that on him or development...I just wish if he continues to do this, the coaching staff would make an adjustment to allow him to be more successful. All it takes is the very first play of the Wisconsin game to see Terrelle doesn't check down...he forced it between 3 Wisconsin defenders when he had Saine in the flat for an easy 15 yards.....

I'm waiting for a pump fake that's timed with a receiver making a double move like an out-and-up or a stop-and-go route. But at this point I can wait until sometime in the final 3 games to see it.

 

[brutus2002]

What they need to do is mix things up a little. I would love to see TP go WR a couple times a game in the red zone. If he catches a TD it will get him pumped.

I have noticed that when he makes a mistake he gets down on himself...just like DB's TP need to have a short memory.

If they don't expand his play book he will stagnate. Do whatever it takes...I could care less who playing what position just get it done. Get him confident...change things...whatever it takes!!!

In Tressels defense when he calls elementary plays and we them up continuously it sure doesn't give him much confidence...I know it wouldn't me.

What I want to see is some flippin explosion...hole opens up and the FB knocks a linebacker on his ass...RB's hitting that hole like it was their prom date

Our offense looks like its in a passive/flat that makes them tight. I think he is too tight and is afraid to makes mistakes...being tight is the cause of his mistakes.

Have some freakin fun on offense. Get alot of people involved...it will get everybody going.

Stop second guessing and thinking and start playing the game...go sandlot if you have too...hit the L1 a few times.

This bull we cant make a mistake aura over the team needs to be lifted...go play the game...you guys were AA highschool players and some will play at the next level...just play!!!

If we stop thinking and start playing we will not lose a game for the rest of the season.

I am one of the few football fans that love to watch defense as much or more than offense. I love watching our team on defense. They are on the same page...they know what to do...they are like a pack of wolves attacking their PREY...Wisconsin didn't have a chance out there this weekend. They play with excitement and passion...every whistle...every play...those guys were thriving off the sacks...tackles for loss. They were in the same zone everyone of them. It was pure enjoyment for them to destroy their enemy Physically, Mentally, and Emotionally...they could sniff the blood and drank it.

If our offense plays like our defense this team will be unstoppable. We will absolutely destroy people.

Special teams is the same way...I see Evenge there on every special teams play...passion...pride...persuit of excellence.

Gentlemen the day our offense gets to the zone is the day our team will be the best in the nation...we have the pieces and we have the talent...its up to these young men to decide.

End of Story

 

[OCBucksFan]

One of my fav moments from the game

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[Best Buckeye]

Yeah I saw that, sad when the QB can't get a high 5. :tongue2:

 

[lvbuckeye]

How do you forget where you left your helmet? Seriously?

Archie couldn't find his helmet when Woody put him back in the game after he fumbled his first carry against North Carolina in '72...
239 yards later a legend was born.