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Yankees-Indians Blockbuster Trade Rumor

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Sloopy45

Sloopy45

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Here's what a little bird told me (I don't think Cleveland would do it tho'):

Yankee scouts were recently seen at the Indians-Mariners series, but contrary to speculation, the Yankees scouts were not at the game to scout the Seattle players, but primarily to scout Cleveland's GRADY SIZEMORE.

The Yanks see Sizemore as their CF of the future, he's very young (22), and they say that his swing reminds them of a young Paul O'Neill. The Yanks are also interested in Arthur Rhodes (desperately need a lefty out of the 'Pen), and Kevin Millwood too. (The Yanks are looking to Leo Mazzone as successor to Mel Stottleymyre as Pitching Coach next season, and feel Leo can ressurect Millwood's career again as he did in Atlanta).

The Indians, with a glut of Outfielders, like Dubois' power potential along with Casey Blake, and Cocoa Puffs in Center. So apparently they're open to listening to offers for Sizemore. The Indians would get, in return, the Yankees best position prospect, 3B Eric Duncan, who is a David Wright clone, and would replace struggling Aaron Boone at 3B. Duncan is currently at Double A, but is viewed as a fast track type prospect who can be in the Bigs by the '06 All Star Break. They would also get Sean Henn, a Triple A righthanded starter with a great fastball, who is among the best pitching prospects in the Yanks' system. He pitched two games for the Yanks (both against TB) earlier this season in emergency situations and was rocked both times. He has stuff, but clearly isn't ready. The Indians are high on him, and feel he's a change-up away from being a very successful ML pitcher.

So to sum up: Sizemore, Millwood, & Rhodes to Yanks in exchange for Duncan (AA-3B), & Henn (AAA-RHP). What do you Indians fans think? I don't really see this trade happening ..
 
they do that trade and I officially quit being an indians fan... that is a horribly one sided deal and I can't see Shapiro not getting alot more than that for those players... like thier 2nd baseman to start with.. Sizemore is one of the best young plyers out there, and Rhodes and Millwood alone should get those two prospects... F the Yankees. :wink:
 
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throw a few million in and make it happen
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That's the key. Us Indian's fans get real excited when the team cashes out on some of its young prospects. We might finish last, but we are fiscally sound. It really means a lot to the average Wahoo follower.

Baseball sucks.
 
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Sloopy45 said:
The Yanks see Sizemore as their CF of the future, he's very young (22), and they say that his swing reminds them of a young Paul O'Neill. The Yanks are also interested in Arthur Rhodes (desperately need a lefty out of the 'Pen), and Kevin Millwood too. (The Yanks are looking to Leo Mazzone as successor to Mel Stottleymyre as Pitching Coach next season, and feel Leo can ressurect Millwood's career again as he did in Atlanta).
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wait, being a braves fan, is leo mazzone considering this offer? he has been in atlanta forever along with bobby cox and i feel they make a great team. i hope he doesnt give into the damn yankees
 
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I hate the idea of trading Grady, but if they get the type of deal that brought him here for him, then I am fine with it. To make anything work with the Spanks, need to have whats his name, Cano?, to start, and then add in at least those tow minor leaguers, and then more.

Why trade with the devil if you can't get far over the actual value.
 
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The Yankees were there to look at Millwood (on a one year deal... anyway)
... who is available- Maybe Rhodes too... he's been lights out, and we know he can handle NY. (and he's on a two year deal... which means he's worth a little extra)

Sizemore is going nowhere. Period. The Indians have moved to the Make your team better for next year "phase" (Which is between the make your team better for 2 or 3 years from now, or make your team better for the run- Which is where the Yankees already are.)

They are not in a position to trade the best position player on the team-- who I think they have 2 more years on a qualifying deal-- for a kid who might be ready to break in by next years break. I'm sure he's a fine player... however it doesn't make any sense. (Also, in theory the Yankees aren't supposed to be able to kick in more the 250K per player in the deal... or else they would have been buying contracts all along instead of depleting their minor league teams.)

Besides... the Indians traded for DuBois precisely because they have committed to Sizemore and Crisp. (I tend to think they still view Crisp as either the 1 or 2 hitter long term, and Sizemore a 3... but you need a 4, 5 or 6 hitter as your other outfielder in that case- an OPS guy vs a OBP guy.... Dunno if Dubois is it... but Gerut was not it.... this is simple "Moneyball" call Billy Beane if you need help with that terminology) I tend to think Franklin Gutierrez or Brad Snyder will end up in that RF spot by next year at some point.

The glut of outfileders in relation to "the struggling" Aaron Boone is very simple to sort out... "the struggling" Casey Blake... regardless... this is an unconvincing argument. Besides, the 3B of the future might be Jhonny Peralta.
 
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DCBuckFan: "that is a horribly one sided deal and I can't see Shapiro not getting alot more than that for those players... "

Its actually not as one-sided as you think. Duncan is a tremendous prospect. Tom Verducci did a write-up on him in S.I. a few weeks ago.

"Rhodes and Millwood alone should get those two prospects... "

Not a chance. Rhodes & Millwood wouldn't be worth one of those prospects ..

casey_buckeye: "Why would Leo Mazzone help the Yankees from Atlanta? He isn't leaving the Braves."

The rumor is that Bobby Cox might retire at the end of the season. If that's the case, Mazzone is a Cox-guy (that doesn't sound too good, does it?) and doesn't particularly get along with Schuerholz. So he might be looking for employment and the Yanks are very, very interested .. especially with Stottlemyre definately retiring at the end of the season.

DCBuckFan: "need to have whats his name, Cano?, to start, and then add in at least those tow minor leaguers, and then more."

Again, repeat: Duncan is a prospect on the same level of Sizemore!! You're not getting more than that. Sizemore is 2 years older than Duncan .. its not like he's a proven commodity, either.

bucknuts44820: "This is not going to happen. The Indians are not going to trade Sizemore, especially for two unproven minor leaguers. Take the rumor for what its worth."

I don't think this'll happen, either. But it is a trade that both sides should consider. You may not think so, but knowing the Yankees' system as I do, this would be a very good trade for the Indians. Even if they have to part with Sizemore.
 
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AKAKBUCK said:
Sizemore is going nowhere. Period.
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I think that about sums it up...Grady, Jhonny, Travis, Victor...these guys are untouchable at this point. As much as I like Duncan, Grady is the real deal...

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Sizemore is 2 years older than Duncan .. its not like he's a proven commodity, either.
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Sizemore is much more proven than Duncan at this point...Duncan hit around .255 in 450 total ABs in 2004. And that was in Tampa and Battle Creek. Grady hit .304 in Akron and .288 in Buffalo in 2003 and 2004 respectively. And is producing at the big show as we speak. Everyone within the Indians organization knew it was only a matter of time before Grady was the starting CF. Duncan may turn out to the next David Wright (although I think David Wright is the next Scott Rolen), but Sizemore has a chance to be an all-star down the road.

I agree both sides would have to look at the deal, but unless Cleveland frees up a ton of money, I don't see why they would do this. Trading Sizemore for a 3B prospect and a pitching prospect means they would have to look at moving guys like Boone and some of the pitchers in their already overstocked rotation and bullpen at Buffalo.
 
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wadc45: "I agree both sides would have to look at the deal, but unless Cleveland frees up a ton of money, I don't see why they would do this."

Agree with you 100%. If I was Cleveland, I wouldn't do it. My only point of contention is that its not such a lopsided deal in the fashion that DCBuckFan, LoKy, Oh8ch, AmeriBuck, etc. make it out to be. To throw up your arms, and demand Cano & more prospects is absolutely ridiculous ..

The deal is pretty even, and one to consider (but not pull the trigger on) for both sides. Kindof like the proposed Joe D.-Ted Williams swap in the mid-40's.
 
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