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lvbuckeye;908208; said:
fallen angels.
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How could this be? I thought the Bible was to be read literally. "Stars" must mean "stars" to you Creationists, otherwise how to justify your ignoring of scientific observation based upon your insistence on reading Genesis literally?

Oh, I get it. YOU get to interpret; the rest of us poor unenlightened souls do not.

Leaving now. God made it pretty clear we would not know the time, and in any event there is f-all we can do about it. What a monstrous waste of time. Almost as bad as lurking on sports message boards.:sneaky:
 
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i love how you come in and make your little quips and get your vjabs in, and then say "leaving now." what? do you not like to defend your beliefs? or do you get some satisfaction from trolling religious threads?

the answer is YES, there are instances of symbolism in the Bible; and NO, the Genesis account is not one of them.

if you'd like to bump the other thread rather than getting your zings in on this one, feel free.
 
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MaxBuck;908355; said:
God made it pretty clear we would not know the time, and in any event there is f-all we can do about it. What a monstrous waste of time.
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God made it clear what the signs were.. Christ did say not even He knew the hour at which the Son of Man will return, but provided ample signs as to when that time was.

Monstrous waste of time? In the sense that theres nothing we can do to stop it, sure is. But what interests me is, the bible is 3/4ths (maybe 2/3rds?) prophecy.. and the majority of that is concerning the end times.

So if the bible is truly Logos, it wasn't a monstrous waste of time to Him.
 
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lvbuckeye;907599; said:
i'm 55 pages in. it is compelling...

edit: page 96... even more compelling...

edit2: page 113... o_O umm... yeah...
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i wound up reading alot of it. I came away with some good information on the Holy Roman Church, and did alot of research on Simon Magnus.

after doing some research on the author, i don't buy it.
 
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lvbuckeye;908882; said:
the answer is YES, there are instances of symbolism in the Bible; and NO, the Genesis account is not one of them.
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Like I said, you think you and your crewe have the Ultimate Answers as to where the Bible is to be read literally and where it is not. If you were to insist on reading ALL Biblical texts literally I would have more respect for your positions.

I think you put more stock in your tealeaf reading of "hidden meanings" in Biblical texts than you do in objective reality -- like the evidence provided in paleontologic, lithologic, stratigraphic, and archeologic observations. Reads a lot like superstition to me.
 
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Bleed S & G;908909; said:
God made it clear what the signs were.. Christ did say not even He knew the hour at which the Son of Man will return, but provided ample signs as to when that time was.

Monstrous waste of time? In the sense that theres nothing we can do to stop it, sure is. But what interests me is, the bible is 3/4ths (maybe 2/3rds?) prophecy.. and the majority of that is concerning the end times.

So if the bible is truly Logos, it wasn't a monstrous waste of time to Him.
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I think the signs, as you call them, are anything but clear. Tell you what, when I start seeing multi-headed beasts flying in and out of Port Columbus, you won't have to convince me to put everything in order ...

I think the point of prophecy is to remind us that Christ's return could be anytime, and we should not live our lives casually, but being ever mindful that the return could be as soon as today. That is why I call this fascination with "end times" a monstrous waste of time; we ought to live our lives the same way regardless of whether we think the End will be next week or 10,000 years in the future.
 
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Forget Biblical prophecy, or whatever your interpretation of it is. To return to the original point of the thread, this country is done when we begin to print up money to pay our debts rather than cut spending or raise taxes. This single event has been the first domino of the downfall of almost every dynasty before us. We're on our way to that right now....
 
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MaxBuck;909464; said:
Like I said, you think you and your crewe have the Ultimate Answers as to where the Bible is to be read literally and where it is not. If you were to insist on reading ALL Biblical texts literally I would have more respect for your positions.

I think you put more stock in your tealeaf reading of "hidden meanings" in Biblical texts than you do in objective reality -- like the evidence provided in paleontologic, lithologic, stratigraphic, and archeologic observations. Reads a lot like superstition to me.
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since you ignored it the first time, i'll ask you again: are the Ten Commandments part of the fable?
 
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MaxBuck;909467; said:
I think the signs, as you call them, are anything but clear. Tell you what, when I start seeing multi-headed beasts flying in and out of Port Columbus, you won't have to convince me to put everything in order ...

I think the point of prophecy is to remind us that Christ's return could be anytime, and we should not live our lives casually, but being ever mindful that the return could be as soon as today. That is why I call this fascination with "end times" a monstrous waste of time; we ought to live our lives the same way regardless of whether we think the End will be next week or 10,000 years in the future.
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nearly 30% of the Bible is prophecy. prophecy does not exist to keep us on our toes, so to speak. it exists to give people who study the Word an understanding of what it going on, which in turn strengthens our faith, because we can see that God does what He said He's going to do. fulfilled prophecy proves that God is who He says He is.
 
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lvbuckeye;910434; said:
since you ignored it the first time, i'll ask you again: are the Ten Commandments part of the fable?
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The reason I don't answer is that your questions are so transparent. But I'll answer now: I believe that God intends us to observe the Ten Commandments.

Also, you seem to equate "fable" with "falsehood." Nothing could be further from the truth.

You don't deny that you see some of the Bible as figurative. So the only question remains -- do you think YOU know what parts are and I do not? Seems like that is your message, but I do not want to misrepresent your position.
 
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